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GARY Megson has apologised to supporters who were upset that they were denied the traditional end-of-season "lap of honour".
The Wanderers players saluted the crowd individually after they signed off with a crucial 2-0 victory over Sunderland, but there was no organised salute - as there has been in previous years - which has led to complaints from some fans.
Megson said it was inappropriate to celebrate when they were still not mathematically safe from the threat of relegation, but insisted it was not intended as a "slight" on the fans.
"The supporters here are very much appreciated by myself, the staff and the players, and I apologise on behalf of everybody," he said. "But I'm sure they understand there is still work to be done."
Of the lack of an organised celebration to mark the end of the season, he said: "These things have to be planned. Players stayed about afterwards but, we are where we are, and there's nothing to be charging round the pitch about. Everybody will be pleased if we can stay in this division, but it's not over yet."
6:35am Wednesday 7th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: trotters1964, preston on 6:47am Wed 7 May 08
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!
Posted by: YouriLeGod, Bolton on 7:39am Wed 7 May 08
Would agree there was no cause to do it. Escaping relegation at the end of the season is not cause for a lap of honour.
Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts.
One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday.
On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.
Would agree there was no cause to do it. Escaping relegation at the end of the season is not cause for a lap of honour.
Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts.
One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday.
On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.
Posted by: Mik, Wonderland on 8:14am Wed 7 May 08
The "lap of honour" is not relative to any success or failure of the team. It's the player/staff way of thanking those home fans for their support during the season regardless of our predicament.
Shame on our manager and directors for not insisting it was held.
The "lap of honour" is not relative to any success or failure of the team. It's the player/staff way of thanking those home fans for their support during the season regardless of our predicament.
Shame on our manager and directors for not insisting it was held.
Posted by: davie, leigh on 8:17am Wed 7 May 08
You cant blame them really Youri.
They have not lost at home since the Fall of France.
All Bolton will do is put 10 men behind the ball and hope keep the score down.
Its got 2-0 written all over it.
You cant blame them really Youri.
They have not lost at home since the Fall of France.
All Bolton will do is put 10 men behind the ball and hope keep the score down.
Its got 2-0 written all over it.
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 8:59am Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote:
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent! [/quote] I said on another thread yesterday they couldnt win on this one and they couldnt. If we had lost to Sunderland did anyone seriously expect 1. The players to walk round the pitch taking the acclaim of the fans and 2. Any fans to still be left in the ground except those that were chanting Gartside/Megson out? Some people just want to whinge for whingeing's sake. Re Colin Harvey. Is there any law against appointing someone you have worked with in the past? Nobody complained about BSA appointing Phil Brown or Jimmy Phillips etc etc, but if you win a few games you can do what you want, if you dont whatever you do is wrong.
trotters1964 wrote:
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!
I said on another thread yesterday they couldnt win on this one and they couldnt. If we had lost to Sunderland did anyone seriously expect 1. The players to walk round the pitch taking the acclaim of the fans and 2. Any fans to still be left in the ground except those that were chanting Gartside/Megson out? Some people just want to whinge for whingeing's sake. Re Colin Harvey. Is there any law against appointing someone you have worked with in the past? Nobody complained about BSA appointing Phil Brown or Jimmy Phillips etc etc, but if you win a few games you can do what you want, if you dont whatever you do is wrong.
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 9:24am Wed 7 May 08
Nothing to be proud of from this season, so therefore no need to do a lap of 'honour'.
Maybe a lap of 'appreciation' to the fans would have been a better bet, especially us idiots who spent a bomb going to Lisbon to watch the stiffs.....
Nothing to be proud of from this season, so therefore no need to do a lap of 'honour'.
Maybe a lap of 'appreciation' to the fans would have been a better bet, especially us idiots who spent a bomb going to Lisbon to watch the stiffs.....
Posted by: REAP WHAT U SO, Bradley Fold on 9:43am Wed 7 May 08
I think Gartside should have publicly done a lap of dishonour (or should that be dishonesty)? and thanked the supporters for their amazing support and also apologised at the same time for his shambolic running of the club this season.
I think Gartside should have publicly done a lap of dishonour (or should that be dishonesty)? and thanked the supporters for their amazing support and also apologised at the same time for his shambolic running of the club this season.
Posted by: matty_c, Bolton on 10:21am Wed 7 May 08
what could be a better reason for doing a lap of honour than allowing the players who will be moving on eg diouf, jussi, campo, stelios and possibly gardner to say goodbye after years of service
what could be a better reason for doing a lap of honour than allowing the players who will be moving on eg diouf, jussi, campo, stelios and possibly gardner to say goodbye after years of service
Posted by: matty_c, Bolton on 10:33am Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]YouriLeGod[/bold] wrote:
Would agree there was no cause to do it. Escaping relegation at the end of the season is not cause for a lap of honour. Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts. One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday. On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.[/quote] we should have done a lap of honour if for no other reason than to let the players leaving in the summer say goodbye like we should have allowed okocha, djorkaeff and ngotty. not surprised they believe we're going to get beat wigans pitch is a dump which gives them an edge over man utd while chelsea havent lost at home in a while.
YouriLeGod wrote:
Would agree there was no cause to do it. Escaping relegation at the end of the season is not cause for a lap of honour. Players chose to do it themselves, that's not a problem. They know what the situation is regarding contracts. One thing that might have been an idea would have been to announce it over the tannoy that none would take place, apart from the fact we had no sound from it in the East Stand on Saturday. On another note. Has anyone seen that Sky are placing all emphasis on Wigan getting beaten on Sunday and taking it as a certainty that we will lose to Chelsea.
we should have done a lap of honour if for no other reason than to let the players leaving in the summer say goodbye like we should have allowed okocha, djorkaeff and ngotty. not surprised they believe we're going to get beat wigans pitch is a dump which gives them an edge over man utd while chelsea havent lost at home in a while.
Posted by: Carole Bates, Bolton on 10:43am Wed 7 May 08
I agree with Matty - we should have been able to say goodbye to Dioufy, Jussi, Stelios etc. They have been good for our club. I felt aggrieved when we didn't get to say goodbye to Jay Jay. I know we have not much to be proud of this year or much to celebrate its not a lap of honour its a thank you to the fans who have stuck around.
I agree with Matty - we should have been able to say goodbye to Dioufy, Jussi, Stelios etc. They have been good for our club. I felt aggrieved when we didn't get to say goodbye to Jay Jay. I know we have not much to be proud of this year or much to celebrate its not a lap of honour its a thank you to the fans who have stuck around.
Posted by: Horwich Allstars, Horwich on 10:54am Wed 7 May 08
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances.
The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement?
Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances.
The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement?
Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)
Posted by: John Byrom, Bolton on 10:59am Wed 7 May 08
Apologise as much as you like mugson, your esteem is as low as it can get with the majority of fans that it doesnt matter a jot!
Apologise as much as you like mugson, your esteem is as low as it can get with the majority of fans that it doesnt matter a jot!
Posted by: John Byrom, Bolton on 11:04am Wed 7 May 08
Apologise as much as you like mugson, your esteem is as low as it can get with the majority of fans that it doesnt matter a jot!
Apologise as much as you like mugson, your esteem is as low as it can get with the majority of fans that it doesnt matter a jot!
Posted by: charlie, wigan on 11:14am Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Horwich Allstars[/bold] wrote:
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)[/quote] Any idea why the fireworks were stopped?
Horwich Allstars wrote:
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)
Any idea why the fireworks were stopped?
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 11:16am Wed 7 May 08
money
Posted by: charlie, wigan on 11:26am Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote:
money[/quote] Really? Surely things arent that bad
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
money
Really? Surely things arent that bad
Posted by: hierro, Bolton on 11:33am Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Horwich Allstars[/bold] wrote:
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)[/quote] bring back the fireworks !! they are about as much of a spectacle as a gary megson interview. and as much value for money as Daniel Braaten.
Horwich Allstars wrote:
They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)
bring back the fireworks !! they are about as much of a spectacle as a gary megson interview. and as much value for money as Daniel Braaten.
Posted by: saudi wanderer, Aspull on 11:41am Wed 7 May 08
I'm sure that it would be reasonable to expect the club to organise a thanks you for the fans. If Jussi or Rikki do move on then are we not going to give them a testimonial which could include a "thank you" to the fans for their loyalty thro the year especially those who went to the Uefa games.
I'm sure that it would be reasonable to expect the club to organise a thanks you for the fans. If Jussi or Rikki do move on then are we not going to give them a testimonial which could include a "thank you" to the fans for their loyalty thro the year especially those who went to the Uefa games.
Posted by: Horwich Allstars, Horwich on 11:42am Wed 7 May 08
I think that the fireworks (and the music when the goals were scored) where stopped in order to usher in a new era. I quite enjoyed having a sing along to Amirillo (or whatever) when we scored a goal. They can't have stopped the music due to finances.
Apart from that, how much do a few fireworks cost? probably less than it's costs them to wine and dine our local councillers before the match
I think that the fireworks (and the music when the goals were scored) where stopped in order to usher in a new era. I quite enjoyed having a sing along to Amirillo (or whatever) when we scored a goal. They can't have stopped the music due to finances.
Apart from that, how much do a few fireworks cost? probably less than it's costs them to wine and dine our local councillers before the match
Posted by: billyblackpool, blackpool on 11:43am Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote:
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent! [/quote] Dont know your source for your facts trotters1964 but according to this source ( a quite reliable one)http://www.socce
rbase.com/managers2.
sd?managerid=482
194 Games Won 141 Games Drawn
trotters1964 wrote:
to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!
Dont know your source for your facts trotters1964 but according to this source ( a quite reliable one)http://www.socce
rbase.com/managers2.
sd?managerid=482
194 Games Won 141 Games Drawn
Posted by: Lord Lucan, Somewhere on 11:59am Wed 7 May 08
Negson is on record (BBC interview post Sunder;and match) saying that he doesn't care what the fans think. He didn't quite mean it in that way BUT it is perfectly evident in his conduct at Lisbon, most away games and the Dioufy farewell fiasco on Saturday evening.
Amazingly his managerial career win ratio is not hugely different from many of his contemporaries - but about 10% worse than Allardyce. His managerial "hatred from the fans" ratio MUST be a lot higher. Only Nolan hugged him on Saturday, so I don't think that the team think too much of him either.
Negson is on record (BBC interview post Sunder;and match) saying that he doesn't care what the fans think. He didn't quite mean it in that way BUT it is perfectly evident in his conduct at Lisbon, most away games and the Dioufy farewell fiasco on Saturday evening.
Amazingly his managerial career win ratio is not hugely different from many of his contemporaries - but about 10% worse than Allardyce. His managerial "hatred from the fans" ratio MUST be a lot higher. Only Nolan hugged him on Saturday, so I don't think that the team think too much of him either.
Posted by: andy, London on 12:13pm Wed 7 May 08
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board.
The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux.
If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities.
But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now.
Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board.
The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux.
If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities.
But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now.
Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
Posted by: fernando, bolton on 12:19pm Wed 7 May 08
I would love it if we get beat 1 - 0 at chelsea and wigan stuff the scum. (As long as reading dont win 10 - 0) A lap of honour would be appreciated then. It would be great if it was 0 - 0 after 89 mins and scum were hanging on to a point. Then up pops Anelka in injury time for a 1 - 0 win.
That could only be improved by a Chelski win in Moscow as well. Happy days.
I would love it if we get beat 1 - 0 at chelsea and wigan stuff the scum. (As long as reading dont win 10 - 0) A lap of honour would be appreciated then. It would be great if it was 0 - 0 after 89 mins and scum were hanging on to a point. Then up pops Anelka in injury time for a 1 - 0 win.
That could only be improved by a Chelski win in Moscow as well. Happy days.
Posted by: Horwich Allstars, Horwich on 12:23pm Wed 7 May 08
When the wolves fan was hit last year, the Bolton fireworks stopped for one week - and continued for the rest of the season..so I don't think that that's the reason that it was stopped.
I have been to all of the matches this year - and don't jsut turn up on the last day for a sing-a-long.
The walkround just about me saying goodbye to players..it's about the players and the manager thanking me for coughing up £450 per season for my ticket & many hours of my time (not to mention money spent on shirts,Golden Gamble etc).
I don't think 15 minutes of thier time is too much to ask.
When the wolves fan was hit last year, the Bolton fireworks stopped for one week - and continued for the rest of the season..so I don't think that that's the reason that it was stopped.
I have been to all of the matches this year - and don't jsut turn up on the last day for a sing-a-long.
The walkround just about me saying goodbye to players..it's about the players and the manager thanking me for coughing up £450 per season for my ticket & many hours of my time (not to mention money spent on shirts,Golden Gamble etc).
I don't think 15 minutes of thier time is too much to ask.
Posted by: davie, leigh on 12:29pm Wed 7 May 08
Sorry Fernando,but I dont think Anelka can play.
So anyone to score after 89mins.
Hopefully a Diouf own goal were he beats 3 defenders and smashes the ball into the top corner.
Sorry Fernando,but I dont think Anelka can play.
So anyone to score after 89mins.
Hopefully a Diouf own goal were he beats 3 defenders and smashes the ball into the top corner.
Posted by: andy, London on 12:30pm Wed 7 May 08
Fernando. You are a fooking idiot.
Anyone who wants Bolton to lose is not a fan. End of story.
Fernando. You are a fooking idiot.
Anyone who wants Bolton to lose is not a fan. End of story.
Posted by: andy, London on 12:33pm Wed 7 May 08
Fernando. You are a fooking idiot.
Anyone who wants Bolton to lose is not a fan. End of story.
Fernando. You are a fooking idiot.
Anyone who wants Bolton to lose is not a fan. End of story.
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 12:39pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Carole Bates[/bold] wrote:
I agree with Matty - we should have been able to say goodbye to Dioufy, Jussi, Stelios etc. They have been good for our club. I felt aggrieved when we didn't get to say goodbye to Jay Jay. I know we have not much to be proud of this year or much to celebrate its not a lap of honour its a thank you to the fans who have stuck around.[/quote] How can we do a formal goodbye to these players, who says they are leaving? If Jussi or Stelios have agreed to join another club they could have let us know! And if Megson has no intention of offering them another contract, it might be irrelevant, who says Megson will still be here? I live in hope that Megson goes and the new manager sees sense and gives Stelios another 2 year deal. He is as fit and impressive as Gary Speed was at the same age, certainly fitter than a lot of players in the team who are younger than him. I'm not sure why we would say "bye" to Diouff when he is under contract and I would be surprised if anyone came in with a high enough bid (£5 mil plus?). It just seems inappropriate to be waving off players that we would prefer to keep.
Carole Bates wrote:
I agree with Matty - we should have been able to say goodbye to Dioufy, Jussi, Stelios etc. They have been good for our club. I felt aggrieved when we didn't get to say goodbye to Jay Jay. I know we have not much to be proud of this year or much to celebrate its not a lap of honour its a thank you to the fans who have stuck around.
How can we do a formal goodbye to these players, who says they are leaving? If Jussi or Stelios have agreed to join another club they could have let us know! And if Megson has no intention of offering them another contract, it might be irrelevant, who says Megson will still be here? I live in hope that Megson goes and the new manager sees sense and gives Stelios another 2 year deal. He is as fit and impressive as Gary Speed was at the same age, certainly fitter than a lot of players in the team who are younger than him. I'm not sure why we would say "bye" to Diouff when he is under contract and I would be surprised if anyone came in with a high enough bid (£5 mil plus?). It just seems inappropriate to be waving off players that we would prefer to keep.
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 12:45pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]charlie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Horwich Allstars[/bold] wrote: They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)[/quote] Any idea why the fireworks were stopped? [/quote] Someone saw sense I would hope. Same as the chaps with the flags, the embarrassing "I feel good" after goals and the cacophany of noise from about 2.50 to 2.59 every match. There have been a lot of mistakes made this season, but credit where its due, I would hope this could be put down to listening to the fans. Its almost becoming a pleasure to attend the Reebok these days, the only embarrassment is Megson's team selection but at least its improving off the pitch.
charlie wrote:
Horwich Allstars wrote: They should have done the lap on Sunday. It's a way of the players saying thatkyou to the fans...they should be more appreciative this year, as we have stuck by them through a series of pretty poor performances. The PA system not working was a real pain... no idea what was going on. What if there had been a safety announcement? Bring back the fireworks at the start of the match....might bring us a bit of luck :-)
Any idea why the fireworks were stopped?
Someone saw sense I would hope. Same as the chaps with the flags, the embarrassing "I feel good" after goals and the cacophany of noise from about 2.50 to 2.59 every match. There have been a lot of mistakes made this season, but credit where its due, I would hope this could be put down to listening to the fans. Its almost becoming a pleasure to attend the Reebok these days, the only embarrassment is Megson's team selection but at least its improving off the pitch.
Posted by: Brak, Bolton on 12:45pm Wed 7 May 08
Firstly anyone who utters this phrase needs stringing up! It's pathetic!
[quote]we are where we are,[/quote]
And secondly, we were all expecting some sort of acknowledgment from the players - nothing to do with laps of honour. It's just an opportunity to say goodbyes and see out what has been a terrible season.
Thirdly, no point entertaining people like andy from London as he has no way of knowing who goes to every game or not! Yawn!
Firstly anyone who utters this phrase needs stringing up! It's pathetic!
we are where we are,
And secondly, we were all expecting some sort of acknowledgment from the players - nothing to do with laps of honour. It's just an opportunity to say goodbyes and see out what has been a terrible season.
Thirdly, no point entertaining people like andy from London as he has no way of knowing who goes to every game or not! Yawn!
Posted by: Carl_XVI_Gustaf, Sverige on 12:56pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]andy[/bold] wrote:
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here. [/quote] Are you retarded?
andy wrote:
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
Are you retarded?
Posted by: hierro, Bolton on 12:57pm Wed 7 May 08
i see todays football gossip has got us linked with Chris Morgan Centre Back for Sheff Utd, never a Premiership Player in the memory of man, hope this story is way off the mark - we need another young / quick Centre Back to compliment Cahill.
i see todays football gossip has got us linked with Chris Morgan Centre Back for Sheff Utd, never a Premiership Player in the memory of man, hope this story is way off the mark - we need another young / quick Centre Back to compliment Cahill.
Posted by: hierro, Bolton on 1:01pm Wed 7 May 08
just read this on the 606 pages on the beeb - not sure how true it is.
the new bolton kit will be unveiled tommorow and it will be worn for the first time against chelsea on sunday. the new kit is made by adidas and is simmilar to derbys kit this season. with dark blue instead of black (obviously) it has "the trotters" stitched into the back @ the neck. the sponsor for next 2 seasons is "boddingtons" which is in red text across the front. the kit will be available to buy from 12/05/08.
the away kit is green with white piping again with the "trotters stiched on the back, and no release date is confirmed yet. the adidas deal is for 3 years with the away kit changing each season and the home remaining the same for the 1st 2 seasons.
just read this on the 606 pages on the beeb - not sure how true it is.
the new bolton kit will be unveiled tommorow and it will be worn for the first time against chelsea on sunday. the new kit is made by adidas and is simmilar to derbys kit this season. with dark blue instead of black (obviously) it has "the trotters" stitched into the back @ the neck. the sponsor for next 2 seasons is "boddingtons" which is in red text across the front. the kit will be available to buy from 12/05/08.
the away kit is green with white piping again with the "trotters stiched on the back, and no release date is confirmed yet. the adidas deal is for 3 years with the away kit changing each season and the home remaining the same for the 1st 2 seasons.
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 1:02pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Horwich Allstars[/bold] wrote:
I think that the fireworks (and the music when the goals were scored) where stopped in order to usher in a new era. I quite enjoyed having a sing along to Amirillo (or whatever) when we scored a goal. They can't have stopped the music due to finances. Apart from that, how much do a few fireworks cost? probably less than it's costs them to wine and dine our local councillers before the match[/quote] Each to their own but I cant believe any self respecting BW fans werent embarrassed by the music that was played after we scored. I cringed when we were lucky enough to score on Match of the Day etc. At the time they could play Glory Glory Man Utd and I wouldnt care due to the thrill of scoring, but when you see re-runs - NO!! Music is only played at small clubs, and I dont want us advertising the fact that we are small time. Ditto the Very Very Loud music played over the PA System at 2.50 to 3.00 every match - I think that has mercifully been toned down - and the chaps waving the flags (God I've had stick for that from fans of other clubs). I just dont get all this razzmattazz. But credit where its due, the club appears to have acted on feedback on this - or was I the only one using every opportunity I got to tell the club where they could shove the fireworks/music/flag
s?
Horwich Allstars wrote:
I think that the fireworks (and the music when the goals were scored) where stopped in order to usher in a new era. I quite enjoyed having a sing along to Amirillo (or whatever) when we scored a goal. They can't have stopped the music due to finances. Apart from that, how much do a few fireworks cost? probably less than it's costs them to wine and dine our local councillers before the match
Each to their own but I cant believe any self respecting BW fans werent embarrassed by the music that was played after we scored. I cringed when we were lucky enough to score on Match of the Day etc. At the time they could play Glory Glory Man Utd and I wouldnt care due to the thrill of scoring, but when you see re-runs - NO!! Music is only played at small clubs, and I dont want us advertising the fact that we are small time. Ditto the Very Very Loud music played over the PA System at 2.50 to 3.00 every match - I think that has mercifully been toned down - and the chaps waving the flags (God I've had stick for that from fans of other clubs). I just dont get all this razzmattazz. But credit where its due, the club appears to have acted on feedback on this - or was I the only one using every opportunity I got to tell the club where they could shove the fireworks/music/flag
s?
Posted by: andy, London on 1:07pm Wed 7 May 08
Silly boy fernando. If you want Bolton to lose, you're not a Bolton fan.
Silly boy fernando. If you want Bolton to lose, you're not a Bolton fan.
Posted by: hierro, Bolton on 1:09pm Wed 7 May 08
if only they'd listen to the feedback about the food kiosks, ticket office etc.
if only they'd listen to the feedback about the food kiosks, ticket office etc.
Posted by: andy, London on 1:25pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote]andy wrote:
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
Are you retarded?[/quote]
No mate. I'm a realistic, committed Bolton fan. Unlike most fair weather moaners on here.
andy wrote:
Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
Are you retarded?
No mate. I'm a realistic, committed Bolton fan. Unlike most fair weather moaners on here.
Posted by: Steven Williams on 1:30pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Carl_XVI_Gustaf[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]andy[/bold] wrote: Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here. [/quote] Are you retarded?[/quote] I fail to understand why you would post this in reply to andy's perfectly reasonable message.
I know things havent worked out for some of the you on here, what with us not getting relegated and everything, but there is really no need for personal abuse, it just suggests that you are unable to articulate disagreement in an appropriate way.
Must have been a tough weekend for some of you I suppose...
Carl_XVI_Gustaf wrote:
andy wrote: Some people just make up lies to justify their irratioanl hatred of Megson and the board. The firworks were stopped in the wake of a Wolves fan being hit in the face by one at Molineux. If part tim esupporters want to say goodbye to the heroes like Campo, Jussi and Stelios, they've had plenty of opportunities. But the ground's been half full for most of the season so you can't complain now. Being a fan is supposed to cost you something. You don't just turn up on the last day of the season, have a sing song in the sun and then demand the right to spout forth innaccurate opinions on here.
Are you retarded?
I fail to understand why you would post this in reply to andy's perfectly reasonable message.
I know things havent worked out for some of the you on here, what with us not getting relegated and everything, but there is really no need for personal abuse, it just suggests that you are unable to articulate disagreement in an appropriate way.
Must have been a tough weekend for some of you I suppose...
Posted by: birch, chorley on 1:46pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]andy[/bold] wrote:
Silly boy fernando. If you want Bolton to lose, you're not a Bolton fan.[/quote] SILLY BOY ANDY, IF YOU WANT MAN UTD TO WIN THE LEAGUE THEN YOU ARE NOT A BOLTON FAN!
I WOULD HAPPILY ROLE OVER ON SUNDAY IF IT WAS FOR SUCH A GREATER GOOD!
andy wrote:
Silly boy fernando. If you want Bolton to lose, you're not a Bolton fan.
SILLY BOY ANDY, IF YOU WANT MAN UTD TO WIN THE LEAGUE THEN YOU ARE NOT A BOLTON FAN!
I WOULD HAPPILY ROLE OVER ON SUNDAY IF IT WAS FOR SUCH A GREATER GOOD!
Posted by: steve, Daubhill on 1:48pm Wed 7 May 08
new kit sponsors are Boddingtons??? as in Boddingtons - the pride of Manchester - oh dear. I thought the way the reebok logo has been shrinking on the shirts we may have gone a season with just an R on first though.
Also, I wish they'd revert back to navy shorts instead of all white - that was the kit when I first went to the games in the 60s and much more traditional.
new kit sponsors are Boddingtons??? as in Boddingtons - the pride of Manchester - oh dear. I thought the way the reebok logo has been shrinking on the shirts we may have gone a season with just an R on first though.
Also, I wish they'd revert back to navy shorts instead of all white - that was the kit when I first went to the games in the 60s and much more traditional.
Posted by: BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON on 1:51pm Wed 7 May 08
personally i couldnt give a poo who wins the league if it meant us getting 3 pts at stamford bridge!!!!
personally i couldnt give a poo who wins the league if it meant us getting 3 pts at stamford bridge!!!!
Posted by: Andy, Staffordshire on 1:54pm Wed 7 May 08
[bold]They have not lost at home since the Fall of France[/bold]
Would that be when that famous Corsican Henrik Bonaparte stormed past Terry into the Tuilleries? "Not tonight, Johnterri"
They have not lost at home since the Fall of France
Would that be when that famous Corsican Henrik Bonaparte stormed past Terry into the Tuilleries? "Not tonight, Johnterri"
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 1:56pm Wed 7 May 08
MEGSONS AFTER MORGAN OF SHEFFIELD UNITED. CHECK THIS OUT.
http://www.tribalfoo
tball.com/article.ph
p?id=91625
TOLD YOU ALL! MEGSON = CRAP CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYER AND RELEGATION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ALL WANT! HIS AMBITIONS ARE VERY LOW. HE THINKS HE'S DONE WELL KEEPING US UP.
WE'VE BEEN ATOP 10 TEAM FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
DO WE REALLY WANT THIS IDIOT AS MANAGER. CLUELESS MEGSON.
MEGSONS AFTER MORGAN OF SHEFFIELD UNITED. CHECK THIS OUT.
http://www.tribalfoo
tball.com/article.ph
p?id=91625
TOLD YOU ALL! MEGSON = CRAP CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYER AND RELEGATION.
IS THAT WHAT YOU ALL WANT! HIS AMBITIONS ARE VERY LOW. HE THINKS HE'S DONE WELL KEEPING US UP.
WE'VE BEEN ATOP 10 TEAM FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
DO WE REALLY WANT THIS IDIOT AS MANAGER. CLUELESS MEGSON.
Posted by: BWFC - TIL - I - DIE, BOLTON on 2:07pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote:
[bold]They have not lost at home since the Fall of France[/bold] Would that be when that famous Corsican Henrik Bonaparte stormed past Terry into the Tuilleries? "Not tonight, Johnterri" [/quote] ok, 1 point then
Andy wrote:
They have not lost at home since the Fall of France Would that be when that famous Corsican Henrik Bonaparte stormed past Terry into the Tuilleries? "Not tonight, Johnterri"
ok, 1 point then
Posted by: Snout, Bolton on 2:09pm Wed 7 May 08
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.
Posted by: breezeblock, Manchester on 2:11pm Wed 7 May 08
Only one Andy Walker, do you [bold]REALLY, REALLY[/bold] believe that story? Honestly?
Only one Andy Walker, do you
REALLY, REALLY believe that story? Honestly?
Posted by: on and, on on 2:48pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Snout[/bold] wrote:
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.[/quote] how about if they read it on the bbc website?
concerning the lap of honor issue ...sure it's not really a lap of honor is it if we manage to stay up by the skin of our teeth but surely the fans would appreciate a chance to say thanks, goodbye or whatever with the players irrespective of relegation or survival issues.
Snout wrote:
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.
how about if they read it on the bbc website?
concerning the lap of honor issue ...sure it's not really a lap of honor is it if we manage to stay up by the skin of our teeth but surely the fans would appreciate a chance to say thanks, goodbye or whatever with the players irrespective of relegation or survival issues.
Posted by: hierro, Bolton on 2:57pm Wed 7 May 08
some of these transfer rumours are really hilarious - just read on sky that hull are interested in andy todd - can't see browny wanting todd (unless he wants another good kicking) can you ??
some of these transfer rumours are really hilarious - just read on sky that hull are interested in andy todd - can't see browny wanting todd (unless he wants another good kicking) can you ??
Posted by: franky worthy, corkscrewing terry butcher into the burnden turf on 3:12pm Wed 7 May 08
Also, I wish they'd revert back to navy shorts instead of all white - that was the kit when I first went to the games in the 60s and much more traditional
spot on steve ive been saying the same thing for ages now,why were at it lets bring back the old club badge aswell,instead of this one it looks like a balloon with them ribbon things??
Also, I wish they'd revert back to navy shorts instead of all white - that was the kit when I first went to the games in the 60s and much more traditional
spot on steve ive been saying the same thing for ages now,why were at it lets bring back the old club badge aswell,instead of this one it looks like a balloon with them ribbon things??
Posted by: birch, chorley on 3:41pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]BWFC - TIL - I - DIE[/bold] wrote:
personally i couldnt give a poo who wins the league if it meant us getting 3 pts at stamford bridge!!!! [/quote] I would rather lose a leg than have the rags win anything! The european cup even more so!
I remember last time they played Bayern in the final, we where at gresty road the night before for the re arranged tie with crew and i had my bayern flag waving high!
I am a converted Chelsea fan for the next 2 weeks! COME ON CHELSEA!
BWFC - TIL - I - DIE wrote:
personally i couldnt give a poo who wins the league if it meant us getting 3 pts at stamford bridge!!!!
I would rather lose a leg than have the rags win anything! The european cup even more so!
I remember last time they played Bayern in the final, we where at gresty road the night before for the re arranged tie with crew and i had my bayern flag waving high!
I am a converted Chelsea fan for the next 2 weeks! COME ON CHELSEA!
Posted by: andy, London on 3:50pm Wed 7 May 08
Chelsea are every bit as bad as United in every way.
Their owner is a shady scumbag. Their manager hates the small clubs. Their fans don't come from their local area. They're wrecking football by paying huge prices.
So why exactly should I be desparate to see my side lose to them, even when we're not safe?
Chelsea are every bit as bad as United in every way.
Their owner is a shady scumbag. Their manager hates the small clubs. Their fans don't come from their local area. They're wrecking football by paying huge prices.
So why exactly should I be desparate to see my side lose to them, even when we're not safe?
Posted by: Carl_XVI_Gustaf, Sverige on 4:09pm Wed 7 May 08
Megson should apologise for being a useless manager.
Megson should apologise for being a useless manager.
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 4:14pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Snout[/bold] wrote:
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.[/quote] I must be a retard then.
I would not put it past Megson. He doesn't really have any good football contacts and is strictly championship or even lower management material.
I Love BWFC, I don't want another year of megson management.
How far will we fall under megson?
Snout wrote:
Anyone believing what they read on Tribal is retarded.
I must be a retard then.
I would not put it past Megson. He doesn't really have any good football contacts and is strictly championship or even lower management material.
I Love BWFC, I don't want another year of megson management.
How far will we fall under megson?
Posted by: birch, chorley on 4:15pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]andy[/bold] wrote:
Chelsea are every bit as bad as United in every way. Their owner is a shady scumbag. Their manager hates the small clubs. Their fans don't come from their local area. They're wrecking football by paying huge prices. So why exactly should I be desparate to see my side lose to them, even when we're not safe?[/quote] granted i wouldnt want us to go down! but if their is no chance of us going up or down a position i would go for any team in the world over united! Our hatred for the rags goes back years and i for one will continue it!!!
andy wrote:
Chelsea are every bit as bad as United in every way. Their owner is a shady scumbag. Their manager hates the small clubs. Their fans don't come from their local area. They're wrecking football by paying huge prices. So why exactly should I be desparate to see my side lose to them, even when we're not safe?
granted i wouldnt want us to go down! but if their is no chance of us going up or down a position i would go for any team in the world over united! Our hatred for the rags goes back years and i for one will continue it!!!
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 4:30pm Wed 7 May 08
I thought he was going to apologise for the poor team performances under his management, not the lap of disgrace.
I personally would have like to thank Campo, stellios, jussi and diouf if they are to leave at the end of the season. They have all played their part in some of the best years of BWFC.
I thought he was going to apologise for the poor team performances under his management, not the lap of disgrace.
I personally would have like to thank Campo, stellios, jussi and diouf if they are to leave at the end of the season. They have all played their part in some of the best years of BWFC.
Posted by: djdaveeo, Banbury on 4:42pm Wed 7 May 08
[bold]Sven for Bolton!!! Sven for Bolton!!! Sven for Bolton!!![/bold]
Sven for Bolton!!! Sven for Bolton!!! Sven for Bolton!!! Posted by: f, bolton on 5:13pm Wed 7 May 08
Not sure about the kit story. As far as I remember, the current deal lasts until next year and a provisional extension was agreed until 2016 in line with stadium naming rights...
As for signings, I'm no fan of Mr Megson but he's not done badly so far. That said, I hope he buys a forward or three! :)
Not sure about the kit story. As far as I remember, the current deal lasts until next year and a provisional extension was agreed until 2016 in line with stadium naming rights...
As for signings, I'm no fan of Mr Megson but he's not done badly so far. That said, I hope he buys a forward or three! :)
Posted by: birch, chorley on 5:36pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]f[/bold] wrote:
Not sure about the kit story. As far as I remember, the current deal lasts until next year and a provisional extension was agreed until 2016 in line with stadium naming rights... As for signings, I'm no fan of Mr Megson but he's not done badly so far. That said, I hope he buys a forward or three! :)[/quote] i would like to see reebok staying on! obviously for the right money!
f wrote:
Not sure about the kit story. As far as I remember, the current deal lasts until next year and a provisional extension was agreed until 2016 in line with stadium naming rights... As for signings, I'm no fan of Mr Megson but he's not done badly so far. That said, I hope he buys a forward or three! :)
i would like to see reebok staying on! obviously for the right money!
Posted by: andy, London on 6:13pm Wed 7 May 08
The kit sponsor isn't changing. It was yet another funny joke from the comedy characters who grace this message board.
The kit sponsor isn't changing. It was yet another funny joke from the comedy characters who grace this message board.
Posted by: hierro, Bolton on 6:19pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]andy[/bold] wrote:
The kit sponsor isn't changing. It was yet another funny joke from the comedy characters who grace this message board.[/quote] andy - you are in a proper bad mood today aren't you - I posted the stuff about the new kit launch - it wasn't a joke but something I picked up off the BBC, I don't know whether or not it's true but ADIDAS own Reebok and it would explain why the shirts are currently on sale.
andy wrote:
The kit sponsor isn't changing. It was yet another funny joke from the comedy characters who grace this message board.
andy - you are in a proper bad mood today aren't you - I posted the stuff about the new kit launch - it wasn't a joke but something I picked up off the BBC, I don't know whether or not it's true but ADIDAS own Reebok and it would explain why the shirts are currently on sale.
Posted by: matty_c, Bolton on 6:26pm Wed 7 May 08
adidas do own reebok but allow them to continue business as usual due to them being a popular brand i dont think we will be changing kit sponsers after all reebok have sponsered us for ages why would they change now
adidas do own reebok but allow them to continue business as usual due to them being a popular brand i dont think we will be changing kit sponsers after all reebok have sponsered us for ages why would they change now
Posted by: hierro, Bolton on 6:32pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]matty_c[/bold] wrote:
adidas do own reebok but allow them to continue business as usual due to them being a popular brand i dont think we will be changing kit sponsers after all reebok have sponsered us for ages why would they change now[/quote] i agree it would be ludicrous for them to change the brand name on something that has been associated with us for so long - especially as the stadium has only just been refitted with all the new reebok signs - it's just something i stumbled upon earlier, not an unfunny joke that i made up - wonderered if anyone new any truth in this as it is something i had heard a couple of months ago also.
matty_c wrote:
adidas do own reebok but allow them to continue business as usual due to them being a popular brand i dont think we will be changing kit sponsers after all reebok have sponsered us for ages why would they change now
i agree it would be ludicrous for them to change the brand name on something that has been associated with us for so long - especially as the stadium has only just been refitted with all the new reebok signs - it's just something i stumbled upon earlier, not an unfunny joke that i made up - wonderered if anyone new any truth in this as it is something i had heard a couple of months ago also.
Posted by: hierro, Bolton on 6:34pm Wed 7 May 08
Chris Baron aka "The Wet Bandit" are you still flooding hotels in your spare time ??
Chris Baron aka "The Wet Bandit" are you still flooding hotels in your spare time ??
Posted by: matty_c, Bolton on 6:35pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]hierro[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]matty_c[/bold] wrote: adidas do own reebok but allow them to continue business as usual due to them being a popular brand i dont think we will be changing kit sponsers after all reebok have sponsered us for ages why would they change now[/quote] i agree it would be ludicrous for them to change the brand name on something that has been associated with us for so long - especially as the stadium has only just been refitted with all the new reebok signs - it's just something i stumbled upon earlier, not an unfunny joke that i made up - wonderered if anyone new any truth in this as it is something i had heard a couple of months ago also.[/quote] i can only think it was someone trying to wind you up, if any new kit was going to be announced or changes to sponsers im sure it would appear on bolton offical or sky sports before bbc
hierro wrote:
matty_c wrote: adidas do own reebok but allow them to continue business as usual due to them being a popular brand i dont think we will be changing kit sponsers after all reebok have sponsered us for ages why would they change now
i agree it would be ludicrous for them to change the brand name on something that has been associated with us for so long - especially as the stadium has only just been refitted with all the new reebok signs - it's just something i stumbled upon earlier, not an unfunny joke that i made up - wonderered if anyone new any truth in this as it is something i had heard a couple of months ago also.
i can only think it was someone trying to wind you up, if any new kit was going to be announced or changes to sponsers im sure it would appear on bolton offical or sky sports before bbc
Posted by: trotters1964, preston on 7:42pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Jon W[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote: to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent! [/quote] I said on another thread yesterday they couldnt win on this one and they couldnt. If we had lost to Sunderland did anyone seriously expect 1. The players to walk round the pitch taking the acclaim of the fans and 2. Any fans to still be left in the ground except those that were chanting Gartside/Megson out? Some people just want to whinge for whingeing's sake. Re Colin Harvey. Is there any law against appointing someone you have worked with in the past? Nobody complained about BSA appointing Phil Brown or Jimmy Phillips etc etc, but if you win a few games you can do what you want, if you dont whatever you do is wrong.[/quote] i assume you are having a dig at me, i was last out and i didnt recall the last fans shouting megson/gartside out, incidentally i'm not for this lap of honour thanks thing, i couldnt give a monkeys hoot, to be honest i agree with megson, we've achieved nowt why do it, his mistake is apologising its made him look indecisive and weak, for once he's got nothing to apologise for. brown and phillips played here for years, bsa and megson have appointed phillips, what association or qualifications does an old has been like colin harvey really bring to the table he was a manager/assistant not a chief scout or are you just having a personal go, youve ignored all my constructive points and facts, just to have a personal go at me, whats your problem, furnish me wish some facts or insight into why harvey is such a great appointment then, perhaps i'll start commenting on your threads.
Jon W wrote:
trotters1964 wrote: to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!
I said on another thread yesterday they couldnt win on this one and they couldnt. If we had lost to Sunderland did anyone seriously expect 1. The players to walk round the pitch taking the acclaim of the fans and 2. Any fans to still be left in the ground except those that were chanting Gartside/Megson out? Some people just want to whinge for whingeing's sake. Re Colin Harvey. Is there any law against appointing someone you have worked with in the past? Nobody complained about BSA appointing Phil Brown or Jimmy Phillips etc etc, but if you win a few games you can do what you want, if you dont whatever you do is wrong.
i assume you are having a dig at me, i was last out and i didnt recall the last fans shouting megson/gartside out, incidentally i'm not for this lap of honour thanks thing, i couldnt give a monkeys hoot, to be honest i agree with megson, we've achieved nowt why do it, his mistake is apologising its made him look indecisive and weak, for once he's got nothing to apologise for. brown and phillips played here for years, bsa and megson have appointed phillips, what association or qualifications does an old has been like colin harvey really bring to the table he was a manager/assistant not a chief scout or are you just having a personal go, youve ignored all my constructive points and facts, just to have a personal go at me, whats your problem, furnish me wish some facts or insight into why harvey is such a great appointment then, perhaps i'll start commenting on your threads.
Posted by: trotters1964, preston on 7:46pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]billyblackpool[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote: to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent! [/quote] Dont know your source for your facts trotters1964 but according to this source ( a quite reliable one)http://www.socce rbase.com/managers2. sd?managerid=482 194 Games Won 141 Games Drawn[/quote] billy it was his full managerial record on wikapedia, normally quite a reliable source as people can edit it etc. it gives wins draws losses of all clubs he managed, not saying its right but its my source, cheers
billyblackpool wrote:
trotters1964 wrote: to be honest he has a point, however it was yet another pr clanger, have you thought about appointing 'max clifford' (on second thoughts), as i'm well known for being against megson, i'd like to back it up with facts, as a rule over a career wins and losses well outweigh draws, however in megsons managerial career and consistantly throughout i may add, he has drawn matches, in fact such a draw specialist is he that he may reach 200 draws in his managerial career before he reaches 200 wins, a remarkable if somewhat boring achievement. stats can lie but i think this is another pointer, or should i say one pointer towards the football we should expect. another comment on another thread refers to colin harveys appointment, is he still there and what does he do, i thought he'd retired years ago, colin harvey was a first class assistant and manager in the 80's and 90's he has never been a chief scout, again smacks of nepotism as megson probably played when harvey was around at everton, so no doubt is returning some favour, dont know what he does and havent even heard nowt from him, no doubt he will be taking credit for all our signings and blaming bsa and lsl for the ones he doesnt make, bsa appointed a lot of unknowns but they were based on talent to do specialist jobs, i know we had one of the biggest backroom staffs in the history of football! but it worked, appoint talent create talent!
Dont know your source for your facts trotters1964 but according to this source ( a quite reliable one)http://www.socce rbase.com/managers2. sd?managerid=482 194 Games Won 141 Games Drawn
billy it was his full managerial record on wikapedia, normally quite a reliable source as people can edit it etc. it gives wins draws losses of all clubs he managed, not saying its right but its my source, cheers
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 8:06pm Wed 7 May 08
trotters1964 - I wasnt having a go at all, it wasnt meant to come across that way. I just find it strange that we who know nothing about what an individual does behind the scenes can criticise an appointment or an individual's role. Nobody criticised BSA for appointing Jimmy Phillips, how on earth are we supposed to know he's better at his job than Colin Harvey is at his? It just seems easy to criticise every decision of Megsons when if the same decision was made by a popular manager it wouldnt be commented on. Obviously I can no more comment on whether Colin Harvey is a good appointment than you can. You misunderstood me re the crowd staying behind - I was saying that if we had lost it would have been a farce to have had a lap of honour, the atmosphere would have been 1 of fury. They were hardly likely to take the risk of announcing pre-match that there would be a lap of honour, and neither could they say "we'll just do 1 if we win". But I do agree with you - Megson should not have apologised, no need.
trotters1964 - I wasnt having a go at all, it wasnt meant to come across that way. I just find it strange that we who know nothing about what an individual does behind the scenes can criticise an appointment or an individual's role. Nobody criticised BSA for appointing Jimmy Phillips, how on earth are we supposed to know he's better at his job than Colin Harvey is at his? It just seems easy to criticise every decision of Megsons when if the same decision was made by a popular manager it wouldnt be commented on. Obviously I can no more comment on whether Colin Harvey is a good appointment than you can. You misunderstood me re the crowd staying behind - I was saying that if we had lost it would have been a farce to have had a lap of honour, the atmosphere would have been 1 of fury. They were hardly likely to take the risk of announcing pre-match that there would be a lap of honour, and neither could they say "we'll just do 1 if we win". But I do agree with you - Megson should not have apologised, no need.
Posted by: trotters1964, preston on 8:13pm Wed 7 May 08
[quote][bold]Jon W[/bold] wrote:
trotters1964 - I wasnt having a go at all, it wasnt meant to come across that way. I just find it strange that we who know nothing about what an individual does behind the scenes can criticise an appointment or an individual's role. Nobody criticised BSA for appointing Jimmy Phillips, how on earth are we supposed to know he's better at his job than Colin Harvey is at his? It just seems easy to criticise every decision of Megsons when if the same decision was made by a popular manager it wouldnt be commented on. Obviously I can no more comment on whether Colin Harvey is a good appointment than you can. You misunderstood me re the crowd staying behind - I was saying that if we had lost it would have been a farce to have had a lap of honour, the atmosphere would have been 1 of fury. They were hardly likely to take the risk of announcing pre-match that there would be a lap of honour, and neither could they say "we'll just do 1 if we win". But I do agree with you - Megson should not have apologised, no need.[/quote] fair enough, i just cant think of a good reason why harvey is doing the job he retired 4 years ago from football for all intensant purposes, i would have liked to have seen a young vibrant hungry person in that role with ideas etc, theres too many old has beens doing the circuit, he has far more experience as a manager/assistant perhaps we should have appointed him and let megson put out the cones and watch sky tv and trawl the internet for talent (football as well), anyway i accept its not personal.
Jon W wrote:
trotters1964 - I wasnt having a go at all, it wasnt meant to come across that way. I just find it strange that we who know nothing about what an individual does behind the scenes can criticise an appointment or an individual's role. Nobody criticised BSA for appointing Jimmy Phillips, how on earth are we supposed to know he's better at his job than Colin Harvey is at his? It just seems easy to criticise every decision of Megsons when if the same decision was made by a popular manager it wouldnt be commented on. Obviously I can no more comment on whether Colin Harvey is a good appointment than you can. You misunderstood me re the crowd staying behind - I was saying that if we had lost it would have been a farce to have had a lap of honour, the atmosphere would have been 1 of fury. They were hardly likely to take the risk of announcing pre-match that there would be a lap of honour, and neither could they say "we'll just do 1 if we win". But I do agree with you - Megson should not have apologised, no need.
fair enough, i just cant think of a good reason why harvey is doing the job he retired 4 years ago from football for all intensant purposes, i would have liked to have seen a young vibrant hungry person in that role with ideas etc, theres too many old has beens doing the circuit, he has far more experience as a manager/assistant perhaps we should have appointed him and let megson put out the cones and watch sky tv and trawl the internet for talent (football as well), anyway i accept its not personal.
Posted by: Paul, Deane on 8:21pm Wed 7 May 08
At the end of Sat game the 3 players I noticed making a point to wave to the fans were Diouf, Stelios and Al Habsi.
We know Di
