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15,500 Bolton people to face benefits test
NEW rules on incapacity benefit will affect 15,150 claimants in Bolton.
The Government has announced that tests are to be introduced which will assess an individual's eligibility for the State handout.
Claimants who are of working age will have to undergo work capability assessments.
The new scheme, to be introduced in 2010, was announced by Secretary of State for Work and Pensions James Purnell.
But Paul McCarthy, GMB regional secretary for the North-west, said: "There is a failure to see the labour market issue for what it really is.
"In areas with high employment rates, like Berkshire, there are low rates of people on incapacity benefits, while in places with low employment rates, like South Wales, there are very high rates of people on incapacity benefits."
"The unpalatable truth is that the problem lies with the lack of demand from employers for these workers. The Government should desist from penalising the victims of this."
A total 372,940 claimants are registered in the North-west, with 8,750 in Bury and 33,060 in Manchester.
1:01pm Thursday 20th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: BoltonDave, Tonge Moor on 1:07pm Thu 20 Mar 08
About time too! It will be interesting to see how many of these claimants are actually workshy, lazy, parasites.
About time too! It will be interesting to see how many of these claimants are actually workshy, lazy, parasites.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:09pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Get the fakers back out to work and off their ****. For the genuine, you have my sypathy, and get well soon.
Get the fakers back out to work and off their ****. For the genuine, you have my sypathy, and get well soon.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:10pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Why sensor a55???
its just a name for a donkey?
Why sensor a55???
its just a name for a donkey?
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:10pm Thu 20 Mar 08
dick
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:11pm Thu 20 Mar 08
sorry, was just testing the sensorship.
I can say dick but not a55!
Hmm, who moderates this site?
sorry, was just testing the sensorship.
I can say dick but not a55!
Hmm, who moderates this site?
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 1:15pm Thu 20 Mar 08
15,000 people is around 10% of the working age population of Bolton. If the government wants to class them as out of work, should they not then add this 10% to the figure for unemployment?
This cuts both ways. The government have been bragging off about their success on employment, whilst all along many of the unemployed have been hidden on this benefit.
15,000 people is around 10% of the working age population of Bolton. If the government wants to class them as out of work, should they not then add this 10% to the figure for unemployment?
This cuts both ways. The government have been bragging off about their success on employment, whilst all along many of the unemployed have been hidden on this benefit.
Posted by: Sheila, Bolton on 1:15pm Thu 20 Mar 08
It`s about time a scheme like this was introduced but why do we have to wait till 2010?
It`s about time a scheme like this was introduced but why do we have to wait till 2010?
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 1:19pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
sorry, was just testing the sensorship. I can say dick but not a55! Hmm, who moderates this site?[/quote] I can say both words but I don't when I'm commenting on stories because it's unnecessary.
See the comment rules.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
sorry, was just testing the sensorship. I can say dick but not a55! Hmm, who moderates this site?
I can say both words but I don't when I'm commenting on stories because it's unnecessary.
See the comment rules.
Posted by: Tubby Scruff on 1:20pm Thu 20 Mar 08
15,150. Does anybody know the working population of Bolton ?
Are these people included in the unemployment figures ?
15,150. Does anybody know the working population of Bolton ?
Are these people included in the unemployment figures ?
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:20pm Thu 20 Mar 08
No doubt there will be a new party in power by that time and something else will be introduced, or at least new proposals for something else, someone please show me a government worth believing in
No doubt there will be a new party in power by that time and something else will be introduced, or at least new proposals for something else, someone please show me a government worth believing in
Posted by: pip, bolton on 1:22pm Thu 20 Mar 08
i hope it scares the pants of those who DONT want to work, NOT the ones who CANT! But then again if their benefits are cut they will just turn to crime!
i hope it scares the pants of those who DONT want to work, NOT the ones who CANT! But then again if their benefits are cut they will just turn to crime!
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 1:22pm Thu 20 Mar 08
This government and previous governments have been saying this for years and nothing's been done.
I'll believe it when it happens.
This government and previous governments have been saying this for years and nothing's been done.
I'll believe it when it happens.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 1:23pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RagReader[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote: sorry, was just testing the sensorship. I can say dick but not a55! Hmm, who moderates this site?[/quote] I can say both words but I don't when I'm commenting on stories because it's unnecessary. See the comment rules. [/quote] Rugrat
Even after your humiliation yesterday, you just don't learn.
RagReader wrote:
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote: sorry, was just testing the sensorship. I can say dick but not a55! Hmm, who moderates this site?
I can say both words but I don't when I'm commenting on stories because it's unnecessary. See the comment rules.
Rugrat
Even after your humiliation yesterday, you just don't learn.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 1:25pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Tubby Scruff[/bold] wrote:
15,150. Does anybody know the working population of Bolton ?
Are these people included in the unemployment figures ? [/quote] See my post further up figures based on a town population of 250,000 and life expectancy of around 70, and education to 16 years. I get 10% and thats a conservative figure I reckon.
Tubby Scruff wrote:
15,150. Does anybody know the working population of Bolton ?
Are these people included in the unemployment figures ?
See my post further up figures based on a town population of 250,000 and life expectancy of around 70, and education to 16 years. I get 10% and thats a conservative figure I reckon.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:31pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Rag, or should I say Boris, what if we were commenting on stories about entertainment on Blackpool beach owned by Richard. I would have need for both those words in that case. Would that be against forum rules?
Rag, or should I say Boris, what if we were commenting on stories about entertainment on Blackpool beach owned by Richard. I would have need for both those words in that case. Would that be against forum rules?
Posted by: Lord Lucan, Somewhere on 1:32pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Incapacity benefit pays better than unemployment benefit, so the unemployed reclassify themselves as medically unfit. GP's who police the system kno what is going on, but knowing that they are well overpaid as well simply keep quiet and sign people off.
Incapacity benefit claimants do NOT count as unemployed so they are excluded from the unemployment figures.
However, there are two far bigger issues whih really should be tackled first:
1 those in full-time pointless education who will end up with the same job as they would have had if they had left at 16. This employs un-necessary teachers and lecturers to deliver value destroying courses.
2 at least 25% of the public sector who are filling non-jobs doing things that destroy economic value (eg diversity officers, equal opportunities, health and safety, smoking officers, vomit inducing jobsworths and so on). There is a core of valuable public sector work to be done but an awful lot that isn't.
Leave the incapacity folk alone until these two have been tackled.
Incapacity benefit pays better than unemployment benefit, so the unemployed reclassify themselves as medically unfit. GP's who police the system kno what is going on, but knowing that they are well overpaid as well simply keep quiet and sign people off.
Incapacity benefit claimants do NOT count as unemployed so they are excluded from the unemployment figures.
However, there are two far bigger issues whih really should be tackled first:
1 those in full-time pointless education who will end up with the same job as they would have had if they had left at 16. This employs un-necessary teachers and lecturers to deliver value destroying courses.
2 at least 25% of the public sector who are filling non-jobs doing things that destroy economic value (eg diversity officers, equal opportunities, health and safety, smoking officers, vomit inducing jobsworths and so on). There is a core of valuable public sector work to be done but an awful lot that isn't.
Leave the incapacity folk alone until these two have been tackled.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 1:33pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote]Rag, or should I say Boris[/quote]
??
Rag, or should I say Boris
??
Posted by: Tubby Scruff on 1:33pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Yeah (sheepish) Cheers Sun, saw it after I'd posted.....doh !
Yeah (sheepish) Cheers Sun, saw it after I'd posted.....doh !
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:35pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]BORISIMO[/bold] wrote:
[quote]Rag, or should I say Boris[/quote] ??[/quote] sorry, thought you was off masquerading.
My bad :)
BORISIMO wrote:
Rag, or should I say Boris
??
sorry, thought you was off masquerading.
My bad :)
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 1:36pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]BORISIMO[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RagReader[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote: sorry, was just testing the sensorship. I can say dick but not a55! Hmm, who moderates this site?[/quote] I can say both words but I don't when I'm commenting on stories because it's unnecessary. See the comment rules. [/quote] Rugrat Even after your humiliation yesterday, you just don't learn.[/quote] ???
Trouble making Boris?
BORISIMO wrote:
RagReader wrote: gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote: sorry, was just testing the sensorship. I can say dick but not a55! Hmm, who moderates this site?
I can say both words but I don't when I'm commenting on stories because it's unnecessary. See the comment rules.
Rugrat Even after your humiliation yesterday, you just don't learn.
???
Trouble making Boris?
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 1:37pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Gazz
Was out all day yesterday, wonder who it was.
Gazz
Was out all day yesterday, wonder who it was.
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 1:37pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
Rag, or should I say Boris, what if we were commenting on stories about entertainment on Blackpool beach owned by Richard. I would have need for both those words in that case. Would that be against forum rules?[/quote] But you weren't.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
Rag, or should I say Boris, what if we were commenting on stories about entertainment on Blackpool beach owned by Richard. I would have need for both those words in that case. Would that be against forum rules?
But you weren't.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:38pm Thu 20 Mar 08
To the genuine ragreader, i apologise for comments made yesterday, however i don't really apoligise because it wasn't really you which means they were directed to someone else which means I'm not sorry. But you know what I mean :)
To the genuine ragreader, i apologise for comments made yesterday, however i don't really apoligise because it wasn't really you which means they were directed to someone else which means I'm not sorry. But you know what I mean :)
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 1:40pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
To the genuine ragreader, i apologise for comments made yesterday, however i don't really apoligise because it wasn't really you which means they were directed to someone else which means I'm not sorry. But you know what I mean :)[/quote] Sort of, thank you.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
To the genuine ragreader, i apologise for comments made yesterday, however i don't really apoligise because it wasn't really you which means they were directed to someone else which means I'm not sorry. But you know what I mean :)
Sort of, thank you.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:40pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Can the real ragreader please stand up!
Can the real ragreader please stand up!
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 1:41pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
Can the real ragreader please stand up! [/quote] That's what Erica sais to him.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
Can the real ragreader please stand up!
That's what Erica sais to him.
Posted by: Le Roi on 1:43pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Back in the UK...this rain is horrible.
Anyway, I'm organising a forum night out. We can all meet up, get to know each other, and swop opinions.
Any suggestions as to the night's format or venue ?
I'm thinking of Wood Street Socialist Club, who's up for it ?
Back in the UK...this rain is horrible.
Anyway, I'm organising a forum night out. We can all meet up, get to know each other, and swop opinions.
Any suggestions as to the night's format or venue ?
I'm thinking of Wood Street Socialist Club, who's up for it ?
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:44pm Thu 20 Mar 08
why do people feel the need to claim this anyway, what happened to self pride?
why do people feel the need to claim this anyway, what happened to self pride?
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 1:48pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Lord Lucan[/bold] wrote:
Incapacity benefit pays better than unemployment benefit, so the unemployed reclassify themselves as medically unfit. GP's who police the system kno what is going on, but knowing that they are well overpaid as well simply keep quiet and sign people off.
Incapacity benefit claimants do NOT count as unemployed so they are excluded from the unemployment figures.
However, there are two far bigger issues whih really should be tackled first:
1 those in full-time pointless education who will end up with the same job as they would have had if they had left at 16. This employs un-necessary teachers and lecturers to deliver value destroying courses.
2 at least 25% of the public sector who are filling non-jobs doing things that destroy economic value (eg diversity officers, equal opportunities, health and safety, smoking officers, vomit inducing jobsworths and so on). There is a core of valuable public sector work to be done but an awful lot that isn't.
Leave the incapacity folk alone until these two have been tackled. [/quote] Good post.
Lord Lucan wrote:
Incapacity benefit pays better than unemployment benefit, so the unemployed reclassify themselves as medically unfit. GP's who police the system kno what is going on, but knowing that they are well overpaid as well simply keep quiet and sign people off.
Incapacity benefit claimants do NOT count as unemployed so they are excluded from the unemployment figures.
However, there are two far bigger issues whih really should be tackled first:
1 those in full-time pointless education who will end up with the same job as they would have had if they had left at 16. This employs un-necessary teachers and lecturers to deliver value destroying courses.
2 at least 25% of the public sector who are filling non-jobs doing things that destroy economic value (eg diversity officers, equal opportunities, health and safety, smoking officers, vomit inducing jobsworths and so on). There is a core of valuable public sector work to be done but an awful lot that isn't.
Leave the incapacity folk alone until these two have been tackled.
Good post.
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 1:48pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]BORISIMO[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote: Can the real ragreader please stand up! [/quote] That's what Erica sais to him.[/quote] Posted by BN Moderator - [bold]We encourage feedback. All we ask is that they don't offend others. By all means rattle a cage or two but don't go over the top and post with the pure intention of causing offence. Racist remarks, for instance, will never be tolerated and neither will swearing. Any forum/comment facility worth its salt would never allow these.
Our website is currently undergoing a revamp. You will see some major changes in the weeks ahead and they will help to provide an encouraging forum/comment facility and allow us to work on some of the technological aspects of the site which are currently not possible within the existing website framework.[/bold]
BORISIMO wrote:
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote: Can the real ragreader please stand up!
That's what Erica sais to him.
Posted by BN Moderator -
We encourage feedback. All we ask is that they don't offend others. By all means rattle a cage or two but don't go over the top and post with the pure intention of causing offence. Racist remarks, for instance, will never be tolerated and neither will swearing. Any forum/comment facility worth its salt would never allow these.
Our website is currently undergoing a revamp. You will see some major changes in the weeks ahead and they will help to provide an encouraging forum/comment facility and allow us to work on some of the technological aspects of the site which are currently not possible within the existing website framework. Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 1:49pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Not learnt a thing.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:50pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Le Roi[/bold] wrote:
Back in the UK...this rain is horrible. Anyway, I'm organising a forum night out. We can all meet up, get to know each other, and swop opinions. Any suggestions as to the night's format or venue ? I'm thinking of Wood Street Socialist Club, who's up for it ?[/quote] To be honest, somewhere with plastic glasses, bolted down tables and chairs and in close proximity to the nearest police station.
Although I think it would be a great idea. Bags not sitting with Andrew though, couldn't be bothered talking about the same thing all night haha.
Le Roi wrote:
Back in the UK...this rain is horrible. Anyway, I'm organising a forum night out. We can all meet up, get to know each other, and swop opinions. Any suggestions as to the night's format or venue ? I'm thinking of Wood Street Socialist Club, who's up for it ?
To be honest, somewhere with plastic glasses, bolted down tables and chairs and in close proximity to the nearest police station.
Although I think it would be a great idea. Bags not sitting with Andrew though, couldn't be bothered talking about the same thing all night haha.
Posted by: Themojorityspeaks, Real World on 1:50pm Thu 20 Mar 08
i wonder how many of the 15500 are claiming it for drink or drug addiction.
i wonder how many of the 15500 are claiming it for drink or drug addiction.
Posted by: kerry on 1:51pm Thu 20 Mar 08
some of these benefit claimants are men who want to avoid paying maintinence to their children. they see disability benefit as a way out of their responsibilities
some of these benefit claimants are men who want to avoid paying maintinence to their children. they see disability benefit as a way out of their responsibilities
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 1:51pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
Can the real ragreader please stand up! [/quote] Only me using my name so far,don't know about other stories.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
Can the real ragreader please stand up!
Only me using my name so far,don't know about other stories.
Posted by: Le Roi on 1:51pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Well someone called me a 'Paddy' on here. That is pure racism and they should be banned at once.
Well someone called me a 'Paddy' on here. That is pure racism and they should be banned at once.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 1:52pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RagReader[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote: Can the real ragreader please stand up! [/quote] Only me using my name so far,don't know about other stories. [/quote] And no different to the imposter.
RagReader wrote:
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote: Can the real ragreader please stand up!
Only me using my name so far,don't know about other stories.
And no different to the imposter.
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 1:52pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]BORISIMO[/bold] wrote:
Not learnt a thing.[/quote] Time you did.
No comment on the story?
BORISIMO wrote:
Not learnt a thing.
Time you did.
No comment on the story?
Posted by: Le Roi on 1:54pm Thu 20 Mar 08
We'll need somewhere that doesn't mind us spliffing up.....
We'll need somewhere that doesn't mind us spliffing up.....
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 1:54pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Leroy
Did you visit a rice field?
Leroy
Did you visit a rice field?
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:55pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I must admit that name cloning is the most annoying thing, is it just me who also believes that Le roi has now been clones as his last post is most unlike his style.
I must admit that name cloning is the most annoying thing, is it just me who also believes that Le roi has now been clones as his last post is most unlike his style.
Posted by: busybee123 on 1:56pm Thu 20 Mar 08
for some people its not as easy as what the people call them selves with jobs the normal people to get a job, you need experience and qualifications, and many ppl wont want to go back to college because they think they are too old or think its like school.
And i dont see how people trying to find a job and trying to survive on £40 a week is being lazy its not exactly a lifestyle i want to stay in. The people who are having kids every year and claiming for them are the scroungersa and they lazy ones. just leave the ordinary jobseekers alone.
for some people its not as easy as what the people call them selves with jobs the normal people to get a job, you need experience and qualifications, and many ppl wont want to go back to college because they think they are too old or think its like school.
And i dont see how people trying to find a job and trying to survive on £40 a week is being lazy its not exactly a lifestyle i want to stay in. The people who are having kids every year and claiming for them are the scroungersa and they lazy ones. just leave the ordinary jobseekers alone.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 1:57pm Thu 20 Mar 08
King Pric is the guy who gets told to meet in the Albion when were all in Weatherspoons.
King Pric is the guy who gets told to meet in the Albion when were all in Weatherspoons.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 1:57pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Leroy
A pub in Oxford had police checking for drugs on the way in. So be careful.
Leroy
A pub in Oxford had police checking for drugs on the way in. So be careful.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 1:59pm Thu 20 Mar 08
busybee, people trying to find jobs are not lazy, we are not talking about these but the ones that are claiming incapacity and are obviously not interested in finding work.
Jobseekers allowance and incapacity are two different things.
busybee, people trying to find jobs are not lazy, we are not talking about these but the ones that are claiming incapacity and are obviously not interested in finding work.
Jobseekers allowance and incapacity are two different things.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:00pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote]The Government has announced that tests are to be introduced which will assess an individual's eligibility for the State handout.[/quote]
Right, all immigrants not working, send them home.
The Government has announced that tests are to be introduced which will assess an individual's eligibility for the State handout.
Right, all immigrants not working, send them home.
Posted by: RagReader, Horwich on 2:00pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.
Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 2:02pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RagReader[/bold] wrote:
Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.[/quote] Don't rush back.
RagReader wrote:
Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.
Don't rush back.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 2:02pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RagReader[/bold] wrote:
Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.[/quote] Were meeting in the Albion.
RagReader wrote:
Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.
Were meeting in the Albion.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 2:03pm Thu 20 Mar 08
It's strange, those who are not able to go to work are able to go and collect their money.
It's strange, those who are not able to go to work are able to go and collect their money.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 2:05pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RagReader[/bold] wrote:
Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.[/quote] and Boris takes it off in a familar direction.
Interesting point made regarding availability of work and the number of incapacity benefit claimants which, if correct, does suggest there's summat up. Of course those in poorer areas have poorer health outcomes too, so may be a bit morer complicated than suggests at face value?
RagReader wrote:
Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.
and Boris takes it off in a familar direction.
Interesting point made regarding availability of work and the number of incapacity benefit claimants which, if correct, does suggest there's summat up. Of course those in poorer areas have poorer health outcomes too, so may be a bit morer complicated than suggests at face value?
Posted by: busybee123 on 2:07pm Thu 20 Mar 08
before anyone can claim money from the jobcentre they do tons of checks, so if people who are not interested in working are slipping through its obvious that someone isnt doing there job proper
before anyone can claim money from the jobcentre they do tons of checks, so if people who are not interested in working are slipping through its obvious that someone isnt doing there job proper
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:10pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RagReader[/bold] wrote: Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.[/quote] and Boris takes it off in a familar direction. Interesting point made regarding availability of work and the number of incapacity benefit claimants which, if correct, does suggest there's summat up. Of course those in poorer areas have poorer health outcomes too, so may be a bit morer complicated than suggests at face value?[/quote] [quote]Right, all immigrants not working, send them home.[/quote]
Is this not a good point Andrew???
Andrew wrote:
RagReader wrote: Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.
and Boris takes it off in a familar direction. Interesting point made regarding availability of work and the number of incapacity benefit claimants which, if correct, does suggest there's summat up. Of course those in poorer areas have poorer health outcomes too, so may be a bit morer complicated than suggests at face value?
Right, all immigrants not working, send them home.
Is this not a good point Andrew???
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 2:11pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Sorry Andrew but Boris had a good point and was not one bit racist. Although perhaps he could have been a little more subtle, but I think what he means is why should we support immigrants who come over here to live off state benefits and have no intention of working. This is the same as why we should support our home grown lazy spongers? We shouldn't! But what you going to do with the lazy chav scum of this country? Can't send them anywhere.
Sorry Andrew but Boris had a good point and was not one bit racist. Although perhaps he could have been a little more subtle, but I think what he means is why should we support immigrants who come over here to live off state benefits and have no intention of working. This is the same as why we should support our home grown lazy spongers? We shouldn't! But what you going to do with the lazy chav scum of this country? Can't send them anywhere.
Posted by: Sun Tzu on 2:12pm Thu 20 Mar 08
The Tories turned a blind eye to people going onto incapacity benefit. They used it as a way to manipulate unemployment figures.
Labour have had ten years to sort it out but they have also found it a useful way to keep the lid on the true unemployment figure.
Add to that some of the points made by Lucan in his previous post ie keeping people in education longer and creation of local government posts and it all adds up to a great big lie.
The Tories turned a blind eye to people going onto incapacity benefit. They used it as a way to manipulate unemployment figures.
Labour have had ten years to sort it out but they have also found it a useful way to keep the lid on the true unemployment figure.
Add to that some of the points made by Lucan in his previous post ie keeping people in education longer and creation of local government posts and it all adds up to a great big lie.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:14pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Gazz wrote
[quote]But what you going to do with the lazy chav scum of this country? Can't send them anywhere.[/quote]
Make them sit and listen to Rugrat for six hours, they will find work.
Gazz wrote
But what you going to do with the lazy chav scum of this country? Can't send them anywhere.
Make them sit and listen to Rugrat for six hours, they will find work.
Posted by: BoltonDave, Tonge Moor on 2:17pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[bold]A tale of a family of parasites:[/bold]
My wife has a friend. The friend's brother and spouse have never worked a day in their lives, or should I say 'worked legally'.
This scumbag actually used to be a burglar.
One night he injured himself whilst 'on a job'.
They live in a brand new house, have a couple of kids, get a new car every couple of years and have 2 holidays every year.
He is on disability benefit of course.
Who says crime doesn't pay?
A tale of a family of parasites:
My wife has a friend. The friend's brother and spouse have never worked a day in their lives, or should I say 'worked legally'.
This scumbag actually used to be a burglar.
One night he injured himself whilst 'on a job'.
They live in a brand new house, have a couple of kids, get a new car every couple of years and have 2 holidays every year.
He is on disability benefit of course.
Who says crime doesn't pay?
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 2:18pm Thu 20 Mar 08
BORISIMO
That would definately be against their human rights. Torture is no longer allowed.
BORISIMO
That would definately be against their human rights. Torture is no longer allowed.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 2:19pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Crime does pay, thats the problem!
Crime does pay, thats the problem!
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:26pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Seriously
A room with three interrogators, bit like One Flew Over the Cockoo's Nest. There's Nurse Itsu (Rugrat) Dr. Spivey (Andrew) and Nurse Ratched (you guessed it ERICA). Now what chance would lazy chav have, he would find work.
Seriously
A room with three interrogators, bit like One Flew Over the Cockoo's Nest. There's Nurse Itsu (Rugrat) Dr. Spivey (Andrew) and Nurse Ratched (you guessed it ERICA). Now what chance would lazy chav have, he would find work.
Posted by: Andrew, Bury on 2:29pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]BORISIMO[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]RagReader[/bold] wrote: Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.[/quote] and Boris takes it off in a familar direction. Interesting point made regarding availability of work and the number of incapacity benefit claimants which, if correct, does suggest there's summat up. Of course those in poorer areas have poorer health outcomes too, so may be a bit morer complicated than suggests at face value?[/quote] [quote]Right, all immigrants not working, send them home.[/quote] Is this not a good point Andrew???[/quote] No. Which immigrants do you speak of?
BORISIMO wrote:
Andrew wrote: RagReader wrote: Once again the story is forgotten and drivel is being posted,I'm off out.
and Boris takes it off in a familar direction. Interesting point made regarding availability of work and the number of incapacity benefit claimants which, if correct, does suggest there's summat up. Of course those in poorer areas have poorer health outcomes too, so may be a bit morer complicated than suggests at face value?
Right, all immigrants not working, send them home.
Is this not a good point Andrew???
No. Which immigrants do you speak of?
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:37pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote]No. Which immigrants do you speak of?[/quote]
All of them, apart from those at risk of persecution if sent home.
No. Which immigrants do you speak of?
All of them, apart from those at risk of persecution if sent home.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 2:48pm Thu 20 Mar 08
well no, not all of them, just the ones that refuse adapt to our way of life or that are just intent on sponging off the state, ones that get mixed up in crime.
Genuine asylum seekers, immigrants that come her to work and make better lives for themselves then I welcome them.
well no, not all of them, just the ones that refuse adapt to our way of life or that are just intent on sponging off the state, ones that get mixed up in crime.
Genuine asylum seekers, immigrants that come her to work and make better lives for themselves then I welcome them.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 2:49pm Thu 20 Mar 08
BORISIMO
If we threatened paediophiles would Australia keep that 'gentleman'?
BORISIMO
If we threatened paediophiles would Australia keep that 'gentleman'?
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:49pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Gazz
All that don't work, was what I meant.
Gazz
All that don't work, was what I meant.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 2:52pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]BORISIMO[/bold] wrote:
Gazz All that don't work, was what I meant.[/quote] I know what you mean but I have found it is best to spell out exactly what you mean on here as people look at things in different perspectives and what may be obvious to yourself is not to some other person.
What is your view though Andrew on the points I have just made.
BORISIMO wrote:
Gazz All that don't work, was what I meant.
I know what you mean but I have found it is best to spell out exactly what you mean on here as people look at things in different perspectives and what may be obvious to yourself is not to some other person.
What is your view though Andrew on the points I have just made.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:53pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote:
BORISIMO If we threatened paediophiles would Australia keep that 'gentleman'?[/quote] Lost me here Chas.
chas wrote:
BORISIMO If we threatened paediophiles would Australia keep that 'gentleman'?
Lost me here Chas.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:54pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Andrew
Do you believe in democracy??
Andrew
Do you believe in democracy??
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 2:55pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Haven't you heard about the paediophile that Australia is sending back, after he is released from prison. He will obviously go on the dole.
Haven't you heard about the paediophile that Australia is sending back, after he is released from prison. He will obviously go on the dole.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 2:58pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote:
Haven't you heard about the paediophile that Australia is sending back, after he is released from prison. He will obviously go on the dole.[/quote] Sorry haven't Chas, but doesn't surprise me.
Chas, if we were all asked in this country this question..
Should we stop immigration now. What would be your guess at the YES and NO's. Percentage wise.
chas wrote:
Haven't you heard about the paediophile that Australia is sending back, after he is released from prison. He will obviously go on the dole.
Sorry haven't Chas, but doesn't surprise me.
Chas, if we were all asked in this country this question..
Should we stop immigration now. What would be your guess at the YES and NO's. Percentage wise.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 3:02pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Boris, I think a better question would be...
Should we tighten up immigration?
Don't think we should stop it.
Boris, I think a better question would be...
Should we tighten up immigration?
Don't think we should stop it.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 3:03pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
Boris, I think a better question would be... Should we tighten up immigration? Don't think we should stop it.[/quote] OK Gazz, but what would your guess be at the question I put??
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
Boris, I think a better question would be... Should we tighten up immigration? Don't think we should stop it.
OK Gazz, but what would your guess be at the question I put??
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 3:05pm Thu 20 Mar 08
BORISIMO
He has just been released after 12 years inside for various sex crimes.
90% yes 1% no 9% don't know.
BORISIMO
He has just been released after 12 years inside for various sex crimes.
90% yes 1% no 9% don't know.
Posted by: thumbalina, Bolton on 3:06pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.
Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 3:07pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote:
BORISIMO He has just been released after 12 years inside for various sex crimes. 90% yes 1% no 9% don't know.[/quote] Even if we say 70% Yes. This means the British Public are not being represented in Parliament. This is not democracy.
chas wrote:
BORISIMO He has just been released after 12 years inside for various sex crimes. 90% yes 1% no 9% don't know.
Even if we say 70% Yes. This means the British Public are not being represented in Parliament. This is not democracy.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 3:08pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Chas wrote
[quote]He has just been released after 12 years inside for various sex crimes.[/quote]
Hang him.
Chas wrote
He has just been released after 12 years inside for various sex crimes.
Hang him.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 3:09pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]thumbalina[/bold] wrote:
Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.[/quote] Who's sterrotyping. In your case I feel deep sympathy. But you must admit yourself there are people out there who play the system. These are the people we are targetting as the no good lazy scum of this country. Not honest people like yourself.
thumbalina wrote:
Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.
Who's sterrotyping. In your case I feel deep sympathy. But you must admit yourself there are people out there who play the system. These are the people we are targetting as the no good lazy scum of this country. Not honest people like yourself.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 3:09pm Thu 20 Mar 08
'democracy'. What's that?
'democracy'. What's that?
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 3:10pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Boris, in answer to your question I think the majority would vote NO to stopping immigration, people would want more of an open question than the one you have put forward. Just my opinion though, I am not always right.
Boris, in answer to your question I think the majority would vote NO to stopping immigration, people would want more of an open question than the one you have put forward. Just my opinion though, I am not always right.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 3:12pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote:
'democracy'. What's that?[/quote] It's a handful of MP's looking after their own interests, and laughing at us.
chas wrote:
'democracy'. What's that?
It's a handful of MP's looking after their own interests, and laughing at us.
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 3:14pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]thumbalina[/bold] wrote: Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.[/quote] Who's sterrotyping. In your case I feel deep sympathy. But you must admit yourself there are people out there who play the system. These are the people we are targetting as the no good lazy scum of this country. Not honest people like yourself.[/quote] I agree. I wish you the best of luck in finding a job, Thumbalina.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
thumbalina wrote: Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.
Who's sterrotyping. In your case I feel deep sympathy. But you must admit yourself there are people out there who play the system. These are the people we are targetting as the no good lazy scum of this country. Not honest people like yourself.
I agree. I wish you the best of luck in finding a job, Thumbalina.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 3:14pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gazz_ball - Supera Moras![/bold] wrote:
Boris, in answer to your question I think the majority would vote NO to stopping immigration, people would want more of an open question than the one you have put forward. Just my opinion though, I am not always right.[/quote] Rubbish Gazz, I've not met one person who would say NO. Ask in the pub Gazz.
gazz_ball - Supera Moras! wrote:
Boris, in answer to your question I think the majority would vote NO to stopping immigration, people would want more of an open question than the one you have put forward. Just my opinion though, I am not always right.
Rubbish Gazz, I've not met one person who would say NO. Ask in the pub Gazz.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 3:17pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Just my opinion thats all. How can I possibly have a correct answer as I cannot speak on behalf of the country. You asked me what I thought, I answered, to dismiss that as rubish is a bit of order my comical friend.
Just my opinion thats all. How can I possibly have a correct answer as I cannot speak on behalf of the country. You asked me what I thought, I answered, to dismiss that as rubish is a bit of order my comical friend.
Posted by: Themojorityspeaks, Real World on 3:20pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]thumbalina[/bold] wrote:
Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.[/quote] its the scroungers that its aimed at i dont think anyone begrudges you or any other disabled person this benefit and i agree not enough company's take on disabled people.
thumbalina wrote:
Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.
its the scroungers that its aimed at i dont think anyone begrudges you or any other disabled person this benefit and i agree not enough company's take on disabled people.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 3:31pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Le Roi[/bold] wrote:
Well someone called me a 'Paddy' on here. That is pure racism and they should be banned at once.[/quote] In that case then
If I attend there surely will be a rendition of Nick Nack Paddy Whack.
Le Roi wrote:
Well someone called me a 'Paddy' on here. That is pure racism and they should be banned at once.
In that case then
If I attend there surely will be a rendition of Nick Nack Paddy Whack.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 3:33pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]thumbalina[/bold] wrote:
Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.[/quote] But what of the pretence of Some who sit at their computers all day pretending to have bad backs then drinking themselves to sleep at night after their all nite disco behind the net curtains...all on taxpayers money when in fact they could be out working and be giving something back to society?
thumbalina wrote:
Hi there i am a disabled person on incapacity Benefit that you are all calling scroungers we are not all like that so I wish people would stop stereotying i want to work but I am unable to find the right appropriate job as some componies see a wheelchair and start to panic so please stop stereotyping.
But what of the pretence of Some who sit at their computers all day pretending to have bad backs then drinking themselves to sleep at night after their all nite disco behind the net curtains...all on taxpayers money when in fact they could be out working and be giving something back to society?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 3:41pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote:
Haven't you heard about the paediophile that Australia is sending back, after he is released from prison. He will obviously go on the dole.[/quote] Death by injection would save us taxpayers a fortune.
chas wrote:
Haven't you heard about the paediophile that Australia is sending back, after he is released from prison. He will obviously go on the dole.
Death by injection would save us taxpayers a fortune.
Posted by: Le Roi on 3:43pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Of whom do you speak ?
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 3:56pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Leroy
Calm down, I don't think Rocky was thinking of injecting you.
Leroy
Calm down, I don't think Rocky was thinking of injecting you.
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 3:58pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Now Now chas, calm down , calm down eh eh eh
Now Now chas, calm down , calm down eh eh eh
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 3:59pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Id want it to be much more painful.
Id want it to be much more painful.
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 4:01pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I wish someone would inject our midfield with a bit of pace :)
I wish someone would inject our midfield with a bit of pace :)
Posted by: easyroy, daubhill bolton on 4:05pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Will this include the musilms ???????????????? with thre hi habs on ??????????????? Dont thiink so do u ????
Will this include the musilms ???????????????? with thre hi habs on ??????????????? Dont thiink so do u ????
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 4:11pm Thu 20 Mar 08
topic.......closed haha.
Posted by: emma, bolton on 4:12pm Thu 20 Mar 08
wonder what the 'test' will be?
wonder what the 'test' will be?
Posted by: easyroy, daubhill bolton on 4:14pm Thu 20 Mar 08
can u speak english ??
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 4:15pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]emma[/bold] wrote:
wonder what the 'test' will be?[/quote] I know a good test.
Two sets of disco lights , a free bar and a couple of renditions from the bee gees.
emma wrote:
wonder what the 'test' will be?
I know a good test.
Two sets of disco lights , a free bar and a couple of renditions from the bee gees.
Posted by: easyroy, daubhill bolton on 4:17pm Thu 20 Mar 08
me no understand ???????????
me no understand ???????????
Posted by: SgtSaRaHxXx, never never land, Bolton on 4:18pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I think we should make them all do my job for a day. I'm disabled, have various conditions etc but still despite all this manage to hold down a full time, hard working job. I know people who have the same things wrong with them, to the same degree or less who cant hold down a job. All it takes is a little bit of will power, and of course, you have to want to work. I understand that some people cannot work, but most if not all employers these days cannot discriminate on the basis of disabilities because of the Disabilities Discrimination Act. My employer has had my desk and chair, all my pc equipment, basically everything I use at work has been converted or changed to enable me to work. If thats not incentive, I dont know what is? I'd much rather be paying my way than claiming benefits, but thats just my opinion. xXx
I think we should make them all do my job for a day. I'm disabled, have various conditions etc but still despite all this manage to hold down a full time, hard working job. I know people who have the same things wrong with them, to the same degree or less who cant hold down a job. All it takes is a little bit of will power, and of course, you have to want to work. I understand that some people cannot work, but most if not all employers these days cannot discriminate on the basis of disabilities because of the Disabilities Discrimination Act. My employer has had my desk and chair, all my pc equipment, basically everything I use at work has been converted or changed to enable me to work. If thats not incentive, I dont know what is? I'd much rather be paying my way than claiming benefits, but thats just my opinion. xXx
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 4:19pm Thu 20 Mar 08
non comprende!
Posted by: Themojorityspeaks, Real World on 4:19pm Thu 20 Mar 08
when you claim this benefit do you have to sign a waiver like when you buy life insurance so they can check your medical records at any time?
when you claim this benefit do you have to sign a waiver like when you buy life insurance so they can check your medical records at any time?
Posted by: easyroy, daubhill bolton on 4:25pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]SgtSaRaHxXx[/bold] wrote:
I think we should make them all do my job for a day. I'm disabled, have various conditions etc but still despite all this manage to hold down a full time, hard working job. I know people who have the same things wrong with them, to the same degree or less who cant hold down a job. All it takes is a little bit of will power, and of course, you have to want to work. I understand that some people cannot work, but most if not all employers these days cannot discriminate on the basis of disabilities because of the Disabilities Discrimination Act. My employer has had my desk and chair, all my pc equipment, basically everything I use at work has been converted or changed to enable me to work. If thats not incentive, I dont know what is? I'd much rather be paying my way than claiming benefits, but thats just my opinion. xXx[/quote] well done you .you lead by example
SgtSaRaHxXx wrote:
I think we should make them all do my job for a day. I'm disabled, have various conditions etc but still despite all this manage to hold down a full time, hard working job. I know people who have the same things wrong with them, to the same degree or less who cant hold down a job. All it takes is a little bit of will power, and of course, you have to want to work. I understand that some people cannot work, but most if not all employers these days cannot discriminate on the basis of disabilities because of the Disabilities Discrimination Act. My employer has had my desk and chair, all my pc equipment, basically everything I use at work has been converted or changed to enable me to work. If thats not incentive, I dont know what is? I'd much rather be paying my way than claiming benefits, but thats just my opinion. xXx
well done you .you lead by example
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 4:25pm Thu 20 Mar 08
sgt sazzy, I think you are probably more able to do things than most of these no good spongers that have lazyitiss.
Good on you, shame you can't pass on your self pride to the people who just think their ill
sgt sazzy, I think you are probably more able to do things than most of these no good spongers that have lazyitiss.
Good on you, shame you can't pass on your self pride to the people who just think their ill
Posted by: chas, suffolk on 4:25pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]emma[/bold] wrote: wonder what the 'test' will be?[/quote] I know a good test. Two sets of disco lights , a free bar and a couple of renditions from the bee gees. [/quote] That is no test? Won't that make them disabled?
RockyRereturns wrote:
emma wrote: wonder what the 'test' will be?
I know a good test. Two sets of disco lights , a free bar and a couple of renditions from the bee gees.
That is no test? Won't that make them disabled?
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 4:26pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]SgtSaRaHxXx[/bold] wrote:
I think we should make them all do my job for a day. I'm disabled, have various conditions etc but still despite all this manage to hold down a full time, hard working job. I know people who have the same things wrong with them, to the same degree or less who cant hold down a job. All it takes is a little bit of will power, and of course, you have to want to work. I understand that some people cannot work, but most if not all employers these days cannot discriminate on the basis of disabilities because of the Disabilities Discrimination Act. My employer has had my desk and chair, all my pc equipment, basically everything I use at work has been converted or changed to enable me to work. If thats not incentive, I dont know what is? I'd much rather be paying my way than claiming benefits, but thats just my opinion. xXx[/quote] GOOOD ON YOU I SALUTE YOU.
SgtSaRaHxXx wrote:
I think we should make them all do my job for a day. I'm disabled, have various conditions etc but still despite all this manage to hold down a full time, hard working job. I know people who have the same things wrong with them, to the same degree or less who cant hold down a job. All it takes is a little bit of will power, and of course, you have to want to work. I understand that some people cannot work, but most if not all employers these days cannot discriminate on the basis of disabilities because of the Disabilities Discrimination Act. My employer has had my desk and chair, all my pc equipment, basically everything I use at work has been converted or changed to enable me to work. If thats not incentive, I dont know what is? I'd much rather be paying my way than claiming benefits, but thats just my opinion. xXx
GOOOD ON YOU I SALUTE YOU.
Posted by: BORISIMO, aka/dop/yelt/vonn/nm
e on 4:26pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Who remembers this song??
I've been going out with a boy
His name is Rugrat
But last night he said to me
when we were watching telly
(this is what he said)
He said listen Erica I love you
But there's this bloke I fancy
I dont want to two time you
So its the end for you and me
Who's this bloke I asked him
Andrewooooo he replied
Not THAT poof I said in dismay
yes but he's no poof he cried - he's more a man than you'll ever be
Here we go, two three four
I was so upset that I cried all the way to the chip shop
When I came out there was Andrewooo standing at the bus stop
And guess who was with him
Yeah Rugrat- and they were both laughing at me
oh, he is cruel and heartless
to pack me for Andrewooo
Just cos he's better looking than me
just cos he's cool and trendy
but I know hes a moron, Andrewoo is a moron
Andrewoo is a moron, Andrewoo is a moron
Who remembers this song??
I've been going out with a boy
His name is Rugrat
But last night he said to me
when we were watching telly
(this is what he said)
He said listen Erica I love you
But there's this bloke I fancy
I dont want to two time you
So its the end for you and me
Who's this bloke I asked him
Andrewooooo he replied
Not THAT poof I said in dismay
yes but he's no poof he cried - he's more a man than you'll ever be
Here we go, two three four
I was so upset that I cried all the way to the chip shop
When I came out there was Andrewooo standing at the bus stop
And guess who was with him
Yeah Rugrat- and they were both laughing at me
oh, he is cruel and heartless
to pack me for Andrewooo
Just cos he's better looking than me
just cos he's cool and trendy
but I know hes a moron, Andrewoo is a moron
Andrewoo is a moron, Andrewoo is a moron
Posted by: gazz_ball - Supera Moras!, bolton on 4:28pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Looks like Boris is in the pub
Looks like Boris is in the pub
Posted by: RockyRereturns, Bicester on 4:28pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chas[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]RockyRereturns[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]emma[/bold] wrote: wonder what the 'test' will be?[/quote] I know a good test. Two sets of disco lights , a free bar and a couple of renditions from the bee gees. [/quot
