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GARY Megson believes Wanderers' second-half performance at Manchester United can spur his side on in their fight for Premier League survival.
The Bolton manager was encouraged by the Whites' display after Cristiano Ronaldo struck twice in the opening 20 minutes at Old Trafford.
The Premiership strugglers could not overturn the two-goal deficit, but Megson is adamant they can take the positives into Saturday's home clash with Manchester City.
"There is cause for optimism, especially if we play like we played in the second half," he said. "We had more shots on goal tonight than in an away game for a long time.
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"We've now got to do it again between now and the end of the season."
Read the full story in The Bolton News on Thursday.
1:22am Thursday 20th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: ad_bwfc, Essex on 1:31am Thu 20 Mar 08
well start playing 4 4 2 and we might have a chance of staying up. and start playing our fringe players in reserves if we arent gonna put them in the match squad, ie vaz te helguson andranik alonso etc none of em played on tuesdays reserve game and werent invloved today. we especially need to get vaz te and helguson sharp becuase i really cant see where our goals are gonna come from and dont dare say rasiak and davies!
come on whites!
well start playing 4 4 2 and we might have a chance of staying up. and start playing our fringe players in reserves if we arent gonna put them in the match squad, ie vaz te helguson andranik alonso etc none of em played on tuesdays reserve game and werent invloved today. we especially need to get vaz te and helguson sharp becuase i really cant see where our goals are gonna come from and dont dare say rasiak and davies!
come on whites!
Posted by: Gareth Jones, Oz on 5:13am Thu 20 Mar 08
Reading the above quotes from Gary Megson, it's not hard to get the impression that Bolton are already relegated. It's at times like this that a board should show it's teeth and act. Megson has done the best he can, but it's just not good enough and the club should move on and appoint a top caretaker manager.
It really makes you wonder whether, once again, it's a question of money.
Reading the above quotes from Gary Megson, it's not hard to get the impression that Bolton are already relegated. It's at times like this that a board should show it's teeth and act. Megson has done the best he can, but it's just not good enough and the club should move on and appoint a top caretaker manager.
It really makes you wonder whether, once again, it's a question of money.
Posted by: pa dog 69, the ether on 6:41am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Gareth Jones[/bold] wrote:
Reading the above quotes from Gary Megson, it's not hard to get the impression that Bolton are already relegated. It's at times like this that a board should show it's teeth and act. Megson has done the best he can, but it's just not good enough and the club should move on and appoint a top caretaker manager. It really makes you wonder whether, once again, it's a question of money. [/quote] Good idea. Replace your manager every 15 games...
Gareth Jones wrote:
Reading the above quotes from Gary Megson, it's not hard to get the impression that Bolton are already relegated. It's at times like this that a board should show it's teeth and act. Megson has done the best he can, but it's just not good enough and the club should move on and appoint a top caretaker manager. It really makes you wonder whether, once again, it's a question of money.
Good idea. Replace your manager every 15 games...
Posted by: davie, leigh on 7:01am Thu 20 Mar 08
Why is it Vaz Te keeps getting a mention everytime we get beat..
I agree playing 4-4-2 is the only way we will win games.
Unfortunately we have not got the 2.
We have'nt even got the one.
Vaz Te is not good enough.
Whether we go down or not it needs a massive clear out at the end of the season.
With Vaz Te top of the list.
Why is it Vaz Te keeps getting a mention everytime we get beat..
I agree playing 4-4-2 is the only way we will win games.
Unfortunately we have not got the 2.
We have'nt even got the one.
Vaz Te is not good enough.
Whether we go down or not it needs a massive clear out at the end of the season.
With Vaz Te top of the list.
Posted by: amosc99, Hoofdorp on 7:22am Thu 20 Mar 08
at 20:56 I sent this txt to dad, who was watching the game on Sky.....
Bolton to lose:-
possible score 2-0
formation 4 5 1
Campo and Stelios on bench
Oh how I wish I had been wrong!!!!!
Formation of 4 5 1 DOES NOT WORK Smeghead!!! Can you not see that for yourself - you have tried to play that formation for almost 3 months now without any success at all!!!!
Very defensive - no attack which leaves Bolton WIDE open to lose (as it often does!!!)
8 games (possible maximum 24 points - realistically looking at 12 points!!! - is that enough to stay in the Premiership Ginger Whinger?)
MEGSON OUT
GARTSIDE OUT
ALLARDYCE IN - NO MATTER THE COST - FOR SURVIVAL AND PRIDE!
[bold]BOLTON WANDERERS - THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE FOOTBALLING WORLD - DEMEANING THE UEFA CUP, DEMEANING THE FA CUP, DEMEANING THE LEAGUE CUP AND EMBARRASING THE PREMIER LEAGUE WITH GARTSIDE, SAMMY LEE AND MEGSON![/bold]
at 20:56 I sent this txt to dad, who was watching the game on Sky.....
Bolton to lose:-
possible score 2-0
formation 4 5 1
Campo and Stelios on bench
Oh how I wish I had been wrong!!!!!
Formation of 4 5 1 DOES NOT WORK Smeghead!!! Can you not see that for yourself - you have tried to play that formation for almost 3 months now without any success at all!!!!
Very defensive - no attack which leaves Bolton WIDE open to lose (as it often does!!!)
8 games (possible maximum 24 points - realistically looking at 12 points!!! - is that enough to stay in the Premiership Ginger Whinger?)
MEGSON OUT
GARTSIDE OUT
ALLARDYCE IN - NO MATTER THE COST - FOR SURVIVAL AND PRIDE!
BOLTON WANDERERS - THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE FOOTBALLING WORLD - DEMEANING THE UEFA CUP, DEMEANING THE FA CUP, DEMEANING THE LEAGUE CUP AND EMBARRASING THE PREMIER LEAGUE WITH GARTSIDE, SAMMY LEE AND MEGSON! Posted by: trotters1964, preston on 7:23am Thu 20 Mar 08
can the ben stop having headlines like 'megsons walking wounded' 'megson rallies the troops' we havent been to iraq, we are just playing football matches, perhaps the headline 'we have no weapons of mass destruction we've sold him to chelsea' would be more apt. good performance last night, guthrie was excellent and stelios looks a good replacement late on in matches, diouf took control as well, taylor improved but missed another sitter, is there a forcefield in the six yard box, all round we made the biased sky commentators eat their words in the second half, even they thought bolton could get something out of the game at 2-0 even with some innovative refereeing to stop us scoring, good call on meite by megson, last chance sunday for them all, whilst we are only one result from safety theres realistic hope especially after the excellent second half performance and all round brilliance of guthrie, reminds me of mcateer at his best. however if we drop two results behind we can kiss the premiership goodbye, lets hope annelka sticks to his promise and chelsea have nowt to play for last game of season, history is repeating itself.
can the ben stop having headlines like 'megsons walking wounded' 'megson rallies the troops' we havent been to iraq, we are just playing football matches, perhaps the headline 'we have no weapons of mass destruction we've sold him to chelsea' would be more apt. good performance last night, guthrie was excellent and stelios looks a good replacement late on in matches, diouf took control as well, taylor improved but missed another sitter, is there a forcefield in the six yard box, all round we made the biased sky commentators eat their words in the second half, even they thought bolton could get something out of the game at 2-0 even with some innovative refereeing to stop us scoring, good call on meite by megson, last chance sunday for them all, whilst we are only one result from safety theres realistic hope especially after the excellent second half performance and all round brilliance of guthrie, reminds me of mcateer at his best. however if we drop two results behind we can kiss the premiership goodbye, lets hope annelka sticks to his promise and chelsea have nowt to play for last game of season, history is repeating itself.
Posted by: GC, Turton on 7:26am Thu 20 Mar 08
In history there are plenty of examples of those who are given a name to reflect their outstanding characteristic. For example 'Stonewall' Jackson was an american general. His enemies could'nt break his defence down in battle. 'Bomber' Harris was in charge of Britain's bomber command during the second world war and famous for flattening german cities in night attacks. Any ideas for Megson? How about 'Relegation' Megson. Thats what happens to any club he takes charge of. Or what about 'Jonah' Megson. He is like a curse. Every time he gets on board, the 'ship' he is in charge of sinks. To be fair they played OK-ish last night. However,'shots on target' don't count Gary. The ball has to actually go in the net and thats not happening. We have no goal scorer. Its quite obvious that Taylor could'nt hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo. Tell us Gary, just what is the 'contingency plan' you've got to deal with the loss of Anelka?
In history there are plenty of examples of those who are given a name to reflect their outstanding characteristic. For example 'Stonewall' Jackson was an american general. His enemies could'nt break his defence down in battle. 'Bomber' Harris was in charge of Britain's bomber command during the second world war and famous for flattening german cities in night attacks. Any ideas for Megson? How about 'Relegation' Megson. Thats what happens to any club he takes charge of. Or what about 'Jonah' Megson. He is like a curse. Every time he gets on board, the 'ship' he is in charge of sinks. To be fair they played OK-ish last night. However,'shots on target' don't count Gary. The ball has to actually go in the net and thats not happening. We have no goal scorer. Its quite obvious that Taylor could'nt hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo. Tell us Gary, just what is the 'contingency plan' you've got to deal with the loss of Anelka?
Posted by: Andy, Staffordshire on 7:27am Thu 20 Mar 08
One positive comment followed by 3 negative ones. The very sentiment that comes to the surface at the games,grumbling, refusing to clap, leaving early - absolutely pathetic.
In the second half, admittedly against a United team with their foot off the gas we did pretty well.We did not cave in like at Liverpool and Blackburn and Hunt and Steinsson had good second halves.
Starting Saturday the team needs getting behind from the off; they will be in good spirits after that showing.City, West Ham and Sunderland are beatable with the right attitude from the fans and players alike.With the clutch of end-of-season results that always happen we will pick up some points away.
Put up or shut up.
One positive comment followed by 3 negative ones. The very sentiment that comes to the surface at the games,grumbling, refusing to clap, leaving early - absolutely pathetic.
In the second half, admittedly against a United team with their foot off the gas we did pretty well.We did not cave in like at Liverpool and Blackburn and Hunt and Steinsson had good second halves.
Starting Saturday the team needs getting behind from the off; they will be in good spirits after that showing.City, West Ham and Sunderland are beatable with the right attitude from the fans and players alike.With the clutch of end-of-season results that always happen we will pick up some points away.
Put up or shut up.
Posted by: YouriLeGod, Bolton on 7:38am Thu 20 Mar 08
Last night YouriLeGod made a very rare away trip to the Salford Soccerdome to watch the mighty Whites.
Thoroughly expecting a tanking and even more so after the early goal, I was pleasantly surprised.
Sure we very rarely threatened the City Reds goal but did create the odd chance. They did ease up after the second goal though, which may have helped us.
We do need to change the formation as on numerous occasions we needed support up front when we broke. We desperately lack anything creative going forward, somethin incisive or unexpected.
What did please me though was that we never let our heads drop at any point in the game. I have been reading the posts and taking in the general negativity of the club over the past few weeks (me included), but it is not all over yet.
Another plus point was the performance of Steinsson at centre half and Al Habsi, proving that we do have a good replacement for Jussi if he decides to go.
Yes we lost but not as badly as everyone expected.
As the post above says its now or never. We need to get behind the team Saturday and if we play like we did last night we might just get out of this mess and can regroup in the summer.
Forza Whites!
Last night YouriLeGod made a very rare away trip to the Salford Soccerdome to watch the mighty Whites.
Thoroughly expecting a tanking and even more so after the early goal, I was pleasantly surprised.
Sure we very rarely threatened the City Reds goal but did create the odd chance. They did ease up after the second goal though, which may have helped us.
We do need to change the formation as on numerous occasions we needed support up front when we broke. We desperately lack anything creative going forward, somethin incisive or unexpected.
What did please me though was that we never let our heads drop at any point in the game. I have been reading the posts and taking in the general negativity of the club over the past few weeks (me included), but it is not all over yet.
Another plus point was the performance of Steinsson at centre half and Al Habsi, proving that we do have a good replacement for Jussi if he decides to go.
Yes we lost but not as badly as everyone expected.
As the post above says its now or never. We need to get behind the team Saturday and if we play like we did last night we might just get out of this mess and can regroup in the summer.
Forza Whites!
Posted by: trotters1964, preston on 7:38am Thu 20 Mar 08
lots of positives in my comments, megson wont stick with a formula that works, dont be surprised if the 'ginger destroyer' changes it all around, we played good football last night, even sky tv ate their words, second half 'bolton have had more chances' surprised sky analysis half way through second half, ive come out with all the positives i can and there were, guthrie, habsi, passing, shooting, chances, however we did lose 0-2
lots of positives in my comments, megson wont stick with a formula that works, dont be surprised if the 'ginger destroyer' changes it all around, we played good football last night, even sky tv ate their words, second half 'bolton have had more chances' surprised sky analysis half way through second half, ive come out with all the positives i can and there were, guthrie, habsi, passing, shooting, chances, however we did lose 0-2
Posted by: GC, Turton on 7:39am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote:
One positive comment followed by 3 negative ones. The very sentiment that comes to the surface at the games,grumbling, refusing to clap, leaving early - absolutely pathetic. In the second half, admittedly against a United team with their foot off the gas we did pretty well.We did not cave in like at Liverpool and Blackburn and Hunt and Steinsson had good second halves. Starting Saturday the team needs getting behind from the off; they will be in good spirits after that showing.City, West Ham and Sunderland are beatable with the right attitude from the fans and players alike.With the clutch of end-of-season results that always happen we will pick up some points away. Put up or shut up.[/quote] Yes, but we lost. Again.
Andy wrote:
One positive comment followed by 3 negative ones. The very sentiment that comes to the surface at the games,grumbling, refusing to clap, leaving early - absolutely pathetic. In the second half, admittedly against a United team with their foot off the gas we did pretty well.We did not cave in like at Liverpool and Blackburn and Hunt and Steinsson had good second halves. Starting Saturday the team needs getting behind from the off; they will be in good spirits after that showing.City, West Ham and Sunderland are beatable with the right attitude from the fans and players alike.With the clutch of end-of-season results that always happen we will pick up some points away. Put up or shut up.
Yes, but we lost. Again.
Posted by: amosc99, Almere on 7:39am Thu 20 Mar 08
When you look at Bolton Wanderers, what do you see?
Fortunately, as I now live overseas, I can see Bolton Wanderers for what it really is - a money machine for a tax exile and for its Directors and Chairman. FOr example, I will show what Ajax, as a club, does for itself:-
[bold]Programmes[/bold] - FREE
[bold]Food and drink[/bold] - CHEAP AND NOT OPERATED BY OUTSIDE CATERERS
[italic]I know programmes have never been free in my lifetime, but the detail is the same etc... so why can't Bolton do it - I'm sure they get enough money to print it from the advertisers to make it a free publication (even the Manchester Evening News is free!)[/italic]
[bold]Tickets[/bold] - between EUR10 and EUR30
[italic]Why are our tickets SO expensive! Look at some of the surrounding Premier League clubs where they just did not freeze the prices but actually reduced them - again incentive enough to bring back fans[/italic]
[bold]Merchandise[/bold] - About same price
[italic]No surprise here as all sporting merchandise can be expensive all around the world[/italic]
[bold]Ambition[/bold] - PLENTY OF IT!!!
[italic]Bolton's ambition - 17th in the Premier League (wow I have a nose bleed from that dizzy height of success!!!) No ambition for annual entry into Europe, no ambition to try to enter the select club of the Big 4, no ambition to win any cups, no ambition to try to get the best at our club (I know money restrainst etc.. But when money can be speny on 12 useless players in the summer that could have brought in 1 or 2 fantastic players - which would you rather have?)[/italic]
[bold]Manager[/bold] - caretaker until a replacement can be found in the summer (and its been like that since October - although Cruijf was meant to be the new manager in the summer but has now pulled out!!!!!)
[italic]Bolton took 1 day to replace Big Sam Allardyce with Useless Little Sammy Lee. A few months later it took less than 2 week to replace Sammy Lee with Megson - then take a look at Ajax - who has the more sense in trying to get a decent manager, without trying to make a mistake in the appointment?[/italic]
[bold]Fans[/bold] - cared about by the Board
[italic]Bolton fans are fickle (just as much as Ratners Jewelry is carp), so why sould the club do anything for the fans - Gartside's attitude towards the lifeline of the club - its fans!!![/italic]
[bold]Televised Games[/bold] - and its coming from the Amsterdam Arena then tickets prices are lowered by another 15pct to get fans in (although they receive less money than a typical top British club for television rights!!!!)
[italic]Premier League Games - Bolton do nothing to entice is fans to club rather than watching on TV. UEFA - reduced tickets but also field a third rate football team - how we were lucky this season with the teams we fielded in Europe. (not skill just pure unadulterated luck!)[/italic]
When you look at Bolton Wanderers, what do you see?
Fortunately, as I now live overseas, I can see Bolton Wanderers for what it really is - a money machine for a tax exile and for its Directors and Chairman. FOr example, I will show what Ajax, as a club, does for itself:-
Programmes - FREE
Food and drink - CHEAP AND NOT OPERATED BY OUTSIDE CATERERS
I know programmes have never been free in my lifetime, but the detail is the same etc... so why can't Bolton do it - I'm sure they get enough money to print it from the advertisers to make it a free publication (even the Manchester Evening News is free!)
Tickets - between EUR10 and EUR30
Why are our tickets SO expensive! Look at some of the surrounding Premier League clubs where they just did not freeze the prices but actually reduced them - again incentive enough to bring back fans
Merchandise - About same price
No surprise here as all sporting merchandise can be expensive all around the world
Ambition - PLENTY OF IT!!!
Bolton's ambition - 17th in the Premier League (wow I have a nose bleed from that dizzy height of success!!!) No ambition for annual entry into Europe, no ambition to try to enter the select club of the Big 4, no ambition to win any cups, no ambition to try to get the best at our club (I know money restrainst etc.. But when money can be speny on 12 useless players in the summer that could have brought in 1 or 2 fantastic players - which would you rather have?)
Manager - caretaker until a replacement can be found in the summer (and its been like that since October - although Cruijf was meant to be the new manager in the summer but has now pulled out!!!!!)
Bolton took 1 day to replace Big Sam Allardyce with Useless Little Sammy Lee. A few months later it took less than 2 week to replace Sammy Lee with Megson - then take a look at Ajax - who has the more sense in trying to get a decent manager, without trying to make a mistake in the appointment?
Fans - cared about by the Board
Bolton fans are fickle (just as much as Ratners Jewelry is carp), so why sould the club do anything for the fans - Gartside's attitude towards the lifeline of the club - its fans!!!
Televised Games - and its coming from the Amsterdam Arena then tickets prices are lowered by another 15pct to get fans in (although they receive less money than a typical top British club for television rights!!!!)
Premier League Games - Bolton do nothing to entice is fans to club rather than watching on TV. UEFA - reduced tickets but also field a third rate football team - how we were lucky this season with the teams we fielded in Europe. (not skill just pure unadulterated luck!) Posted by: amosc99, Almere on 7:42am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]davie[/bold] wrote:
Why is it Vaz Te keeps getting a mention everytime we get beat.. I agree playing 4-4-2 is the only way we will win games. Unfortunately we have not got the 2. We have'nt even got the one. Vaz Te is not good enough. Whether we go down or not it needs a massive clear out at the end of the season. With Vaz Te top of the list. [/quote] We do - Stelios can play upfront, Matt Taylor (not injured just resting, in reality!!!), Kev Davies (god forgive for saying this next one) Ken Nolan.
I would NEVER play Rasiak - a useless player no matter what!
Even when United took the pressure we could not capitalise by scoring - that is where the problem lies (as well as the 451 formation!)
davie wrote:
Why is it Vaz Te keeps getting a mention everytime we get beat.. I agree playing 4-4-2 is the only way we will win games. Unfortunately we have not got the 2. We have'nt even got the one. Vaz Te is not good enough. Whether we go down or not it needs a massive clear out at the end of the season. With Vaz Te top of the list.
We do - Stelios can play upfront, Matt Taylor (not injured just resting, in reality!!!), Kev Davies (god forgive for saying this next one) Ken Nolan.
I would NEVER play Rasiak - a useless player no matter what!
Even when United took the pressure we could not capitalise by scoring - that is where the problem lies (as well as the 451 formation!)
Posted by: Hierro, UK on 7:58am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]GC[/bold] wrote:
In history there are plenty of examples of those who are given a name to reflect their outstanding characteristic. For example 'Stonewall' Jackson was an american general. His enemies could'nt break his defence down in battle. 'Bomber' Harris was in charge of Britain's bomber command during the second world war and famous for flattening german cities in night attacks. Any ideas for Megson? How about 'Relegation' Megson. Thats what happens to any club he takes charge of. Or what about 'Jonah' Megson. He is like a curse. Every time he gets on board, the 'ship' he is in charge of sinks. To be fair they played OK-ish last night. However,'shots on target' don't count Gary. The ball has to actually go in the net and thats not happening. We have no goal scorer. Its quite obvious that Taylor could'nt hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo. Tell us Gary, just what is the 'contingency plan' you've got to deal with the loss of Anelka?[/quote] Stonewall Jackson was actually a General in the Army of Northern Virginia during the civil war!!
GC wrote:
In history there are plenty of examples of those who are given a name to reflect their outstanding characteristic. For example 'Stonewall' Jackson was an american general. His enemies could'nt break his defence down in battle. 'Bomber' Harris was in charge of Britain's bomber command during the second world war and famous for flattening german cities in night attacks. Any ideas for Megson? How about 'Relegation' Megson. Thats what happens to any club he takes charge of. Or what about 'Jonah' Megson. He is like a curse. Every time he gets on board, the 'ship' he is in charge of sinks. To be fair they played OK-ish last night. However,'shots on target' don't count Gary. The ball has to actually go in the net and thats not happening. We have no goal scorer. Its quite obvious that Taylor could'nt hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo. Tell us Gary, just what is the 'contingency plan' you've got to deal with the loss of Anelka?
Stonewall Jackson was actually a General in the Army of Northern Virginia during the civil war!!
Posted by: Hierro, UK on 7:58am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]GC[/bold] wrote:
In history there are plenty of examples of those who are given a name to reflect their outstanding characteristic. For example 'Stonewall' Jackson was an american general. His enemies could'nt break his defence down in battle. 'Bomber' Harris was in charge of Britain's bomber command during the second world war and famous for flattening german cities in night attacks. Any ideas for Megson? How about 'Relegation' Megson. Thats what happens to any club he takes charge of. Or what about 'Jonah' Megson. He is like a curse. Every time he gets on board, the 'ship' he is in charge of sinks. To be fair they played OK-ish last night. However,'shots on target' don't count Gary. The ball has to actually go in the net and thats not happening. We have no goal scorer. Its quite obvious that Taylor could'nt hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo. Tell us Gary, just what is the 'contingency plan' you've got to deal with the loss of Anelka?[/quote] Stonewall Jackson was actually a General in the Army of Northern Virginia during the civil war!!
GC wrote:
In history there are plenty of examples of those who are given a name to reflect their outstanding characteristic. For example 'Stonewall' Jackson was an american general. His enemies could'nt break his defence down in battle. 'Bomber' Harris was in charge of Britain's bomber command during the second world war and famous for flattening german cities in night attacks. Any ideas for Megson? How about 'Relegation' Megson. Thats what happens to any club he takes charge of. Or what about 'Jonah' Megson. He is like a curse. Every time he gets on board, the 'ship' he is in charge of sinks. To be fair they played OK-ish last night. However,'shots on target' don't count Gary. The ball has to actually go in the net and thats not happening. We have no goal scorer. Its quite obvious that Taylor could'nt hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo. Tell us Gary, just what is the 'contingency plan' you've got to deal with the loss of Anelka?
Stonewall Jackson was actually a General in the Army of Northern Virginia during the civil war!!
Posted by: amosc99, Hoofdorp on 8:00am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]amosc99[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]davie[/bold] wrote: Why is it Vaz Te keeps getting a mention everytime we get beat.. I agree playing 4-4-2 is the only way we will win games. Unfortunately we have not got the 2. We have'nt even got the one. Vaz Te is not good enough. Whether we go down or not it needs a massive clear out at the end of the season. With Vaz Te top of the list. [/quote] We do - Stelios can play upfront, Matt Taylor (not injured just resting, in reality!!!), Kev Davies (god forgive for saying this next one) Ken Nolan. I would NEVER play Rasiak - a useless player no matter what! Even when United took the pressure we could not capitalise by scoring - that is where the problem lies (as well as the 451 formation!)[/quote] [bold]Ken Nolan?[/bold] - you all know who I mean - just a silly little type - it's meant to be Kev!!!!
amosc99 wrote:
davie wrote: Why is it Vaz Te keeps getting a mention everytime we get beat.. I agree playing 4-4-2 is the only way we will win games. Unfortunately we have not got the 2. We have'nt even got the one. Vaz Te is not good enough. Whether we go down or not it needs a massive clear out at the end of the season. With Vaz Te top of the list.
We do - Stelios can play upfront, Matt Taylor (not injured just resting, in reality!!!), Kev Davies (god forgive for saying this next one) Ken Nolan. I would NEVER play Rasiak - a useless player no matter what! Even when United took the pressure we could not capitalise by scoring - that is where the problem lies (as well as the 451 formation!)
Ken Nolan? - you all know who I mean - just a silly little type - it's meant to be Kev!!!!
Posted by: GC, Turton on 8:05am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Hierro[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GC[/bold] wrote: In history there are plenty of examples of those who are given a name to reflect their outstanding characteristic. For example 'Stonewall' Jackson was an american general. His enemies could'nt break his defence down in battle. 'Bomber' Harris was in charge of Britain's bomber command during the second world war and famous for flattening german cities in night attacks. Any ideas for Megson? How about 'Relegation' Megson. Thats what happens to any club he takes charge of. Or what about 'Jonah' Megson. He is like a curse. Every time he gets on board, the 'ship' he is in charge of sinks. To be fair they played OK-ish last night. However,'shots on target' don't count Gary. The ball has to actually go in the net and thats not happening. We have no goal scorer. Its quite obvious that Taylor could'nt hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo. Tell us Gary, just what is the 'contingency plan' you've got to deal with the loss of Anelka?[/quote] Stonewall Jackson was actually a General in the Army of Northern Virginia during the civil war!! [/quote] Yes, I know. Did my post contradict that. He WAS an american general????
Hierro wrote:
GC wrote: In history there are plenty of examples of those who are given a name to reflect their outstanding characteristic. For example 'Stonewall' Jackson was an american general. His enemies could'nt break his defence down in battle. 'Bomber' Harris was in charge of Britain's bomber command during the second world war and famous for flattening german cities in night attacks. Any ideas for Megson? How about 'Relegation' Megson. Thats what happens to any club he takes charge of. Or what about 'Jonah' Megson. He is like a curse. Every time he gets on board, the 'ship' he is in charge of sinks. To be fair they played OK-ish last night. However,'shots on target' don't count Gary. The ball has to actually go in the net and thats not happening. We have no goal scorer. Its quite obvious that Taylor could'nt hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo. Tell us Gary, just what is the 'contingency plan' you've got to deal with the loss of Anelka?
Stonewall Jackson was actually a General in the Army of Northern Virginia during the civil war!!
Yes, I know. Did my post contradict that. He WAS an american general????
Posted by: Mik, Wonderland on 8:09am Thu 20 Mar 08
Sorry to tell you so, but I've always said Meite was a liability from the very start when he joined us.
Poor positional play, poor distribution and gives away too many free kicks. AAll his tackles are recovery ons which means he's already been beaten. It was evident to see at OT last night. That said, he isn't to blame entirely for the position we are in.
Frankly we have a mediocre squad. It's no better or worse than any other team at the foot of the table but we are missing natural leadership from the team. 1 captain can't do it all.
Meite, Cid, Mikhalik are very poor defenders and Megson has seen this for himself hence the reason they were not first choice/been moved on. Hunt is on the fringe at the best of times but the last 2-3 games has seen an improvement. Samuel simply can't play like he did at Villa.
Our midfield is static, waiting for positional play rather than being fluid and creative. We have relied on Campo for too long an he's past his best despite being a crowd favourite.
O'Brien, McCann are honest but flat players and don't offer any bite, guile or attacking flair. Guthrie remind me of McAteer but needs to think about his final pass which lets him down. The guy can run all day and is willing to take on players so we need him in the starting line up. Taylor is yet to make any real difference to the team although works hard.
Dioufy, well we love him. But where does he actually play? He was up front, out wide, centre midfield last night and can't pose a serious threat to any team as he isn't a "striker". Stelios still has a little to offer this season.
Vaz Te simply does not have what it takes. He is like Bambi on ice and it's time to let him move on. Much like De Freitas years ago - all promise but little delivery. Vaz couldn't hit a barn door from 2 yards out under match pressure. Davies is our only threat in the air but has no pace, can't shoot and is clumsy bu would still be in my line up.
Jussi - well he's been fantastic for us but last season and this have seen a few errors creep in. Maybe he's been here too long and we'll see the last of him this season. Al Habsi seems a decent enough player from his limited opportunities so far and should be given a chance.
What do we do with Megson? maybe he was brought in as a cheap option. Go down and he's got the knowledge to bring us back up. Stay up and keep the seat warm for AN Other. We may not have seen the ast of Big Sam, and I for one would like to see him back. Regardless of the division we are in next season.
It's time for the squad to get themselves sorted out once and for all. Thay have the ability to finish outside the bottom 3 but it really depends on how much they want to. Most will have release clauses if we go down and the likes of Jussi, Cahill, Diouf, will leave. The rest would probably stay but being out of the Prem for a season (if we managed to get back up) will take us back years.
Team for the remainder of season:
Al Habsi
Steinsson
Cahill
O'Brien
Gardner
Campo
Stelios
Nolan
Guthrie
Diouf
Davies
sub - Walker, Hunt, Andranik, Rasiak, Taylor/McCann
Sorry to tell you so, but I've always said Meite was a liability from the very start when he joined us.
Poor positional play, poor distribution and gives away too many free kicks. AAll his tackles are recovery ons which means he's already been beaten. It was evident to see at OT last night. That said, he isn't to blame entirely for the position we are in.
Frankly we have a mediocre squad. It's no better or worse than any other team at the foot of the table but we are missing natural leadership from the team. 1 captain can't do it all.
Meite, Cid, Mikhalik are very poor defenders and Megson has seen this for himself hence the reason they were not first choice/been moved on. Hunt is on the fringe at the best of times but the last 2-3 games has seen an improvement. Samuel simply can't play like he did at Villa.
Our midfield is static, waiting for positional play rather than being fluid and creative. We have relied on Campo for too long an he's past his best despite being a crowd favourite.
O'Brien, McCann are honest but flat players and don't offer any bite, guile or attacking flair. Guthrie remind me of McAteer but needs to think about his final pass which lets him down. The guy can run all day and is willing to take on players so we need him in the starting line up. Taylor is yet to make any real difference to the team although works hard.
Dioufy, well we love him. But where does he actually play? He was up front, out wide, centre midfield last night and can't pose a serious threat to any team as he isn't a "striker". Stelios still has a little to offer this season.
Vaz Te simply does not have what it takes. He is like Bambi on ice and it's time to let him move on. Much like De Freitas years ago - all promise but little delivery. Vaz couldn't hit a barn door from 2 yards out under match pressure. Davies is our only threat in the air but has no pace, can't shoot and is clumsy bu would still be in my line up.
Jussi - well he's been fantastic for us but last season and this have seen a few errors creep in. Maybe he's been here too long and we'll see the last of him this season. Al Habsi seems a decent enough player from his limited opportunities so far and should be given a chance.
What do we do with Megson? maybe he was brought in as a cheap option. Go down and he's got the knowledge to bring us back up. Stay up and keep the seat warm for AN Other. We may not have seen the ast of Big Sam, and I for one would like to see him back. Regardless of the division we are in next season.
It's time for the squad to get themselves sorted out once and for all. Thay have the ability to finish outside the bottom 3 but it really depends on how much they want to. Most will have release clauses if we go down and the likes of Jussi, Cahill, Diouf, will leave. The rest would probably stay but being out of the Prem for a season (if we managed to get back up) will take us back years.
Team for the remainder of season:
Al Habsi
Steinsson
Cahill
O'Brien
Gardner
Campo
Stelios
Nolan
Guthrie
Diouf
Davies
sub - Walker, Hunt, Andranik, Rasiak, Taylor/McCann
Posted by: boltonvegas, Las Vegas on 8:28am Thu 20 Mar 08
I have a question.Does Megson go if we get relegated? I want assurances.Mr Gartside please answer this question.
I have a question.Does Megson go if we get relegated? I want assurances.Mr Gartside please answer this question.
Posted by: James, Westhoughton on 8:43am Thu 20 Mar 08
So, The Bolton News are letting people post comments again??
It is always a worry when we hear the line rolled out "I can take positives". Poor Sammy Lee said the same thing and he was out on his ear, so let us hope history repeats itself.
I am really excited about Easter being ruined on Saturday. Hoping for one point, expecting a loss.
AS for boltonvegas's question - good question!! Dont expect an answer from Gartside OR expect the Bolton News to ask it.
Megson Out
Gartside Out
Davies Out
Bolton News = Bolton Wanderers lapdog
So, The Bolton News are letting people post comments again??
It is always a worry when we hear the line rolled out "I can take positives". Poor Sammy Lee said the same thing and he was out on his ear, so let us hope history repeats itself.
I am really excited about Easter being ruined on Saturday. Hoping for one point, expecting a loss.
AS for boltonvegas's question - good question!! Dont expect an answer from Gartside OR expect the Bolton News to ask it.
Megson Out
Gartside Out
Davies Out
Bolton News = Bolton Wanderers lapdog
Posted by: Praiadareebok, Bolton/Praia Da Luz on 8:45am Thu 20 Mar 08
Thought there was a better performance from the goal keeper last night and from a Nolanless midfield, apart from McCann who isn't up to it, much more cohesive. Diouf - too interested in performing for the TV cameras and consequently a liability.
Tactics - what's the point of naming a striker as substitute, no matter who he is, if you don't bring him on at 0 - 2 down? Stelios won't do it (one offside goal this season).
Thought there was a better performance from the goal keeper last night and from a Nolanless midfield, apart from McCann who isn't up to it, much more cohesive. Diouf - too interested in performing for the TV cameras and consequently a liability.
Tactics - what's the point of naming a striker as substitute, no matter who he is, if you don't bring him on at 0 - 2 down? Stelios won't do it (one offside goal this season).
Posted by: Julie Moores, Bolton on 8:56am Thu 20 Mar 08
Well done Al Habsi, Guthrie and Hunt when he came on. Very poor- Meite, Joey and Taylor.
What gets me is how slowly we start, and only respond when a goal down eg Rovers, Wigan and last night. It was like waiting for the inevitable. Davo up front alone, wasted passes, everyone else sitting back. There is no way on earth we are good enough to keep clean sheets playing like that.
At 2-0 down, tactics and shape changed, we looked better. Yes, I was pleased with the effort after we changed things, but why always start with the 4-5-1 and play so poorly? Does he never learn? Someone on here posted last week that Megson knows more about football than any of us, because he is a Manager !!!! I would more trust the posters on here to pick a winning team than Megson.
Rasiak- Why on the bench? 2-0 down, the only so called striker doesnt come on, so what is he doing there? Did Negson mean to bring him on when we were 3-0 up?
Stelios- one of our best players in Lisbon. Has he played 10 minutes since then?
Megson and Gartside, you have taken the pride out of this club. There should be a minutes silence on the 13th March annually to remember the hopes and ambition you killed off.
Well done Al Habsi, Guthrie and Hunt when he came on. Very poor- Meite, Joey and Taylor.
What gets me is how slowly we start, and only respond when a goal down eg Rovers, Wigan and last night. It was like waiting for the inevitable. Davo up front alone, wasted passes, everyone else sitting back. There is no way on earth we are good enough to keep clean sheets playing like that.
At 2-0 down, tactics and shape changed, we looked better. Yes, I was pleased with the effort after we changed things, but why always start with the 4-5-1 and play so poorly? Does he never learn? Someone on here posted last week that Megson knows more about football than any of us, because he is a Manager !!!! I would more trust the posters on here to pick a winning team than Megson.
Rasiak- Why on the bench? 2-0 down, the only so called striker doesnt come on, so what is he doing there? Did Negson mean to bring him on when we were 3-0 up?
Stelios- one of our best players in Lisbon. Has he played 10 minutes since then?
Megson and Gartside, you have taken the pride out of this club. There should be a minutes silence on the 13th March annually to remember the hopes and ambition you killed off.
Posted by: wankywanderer, Bradshaw on 8:58am Thu 20 Mar 08
Megson is clearly not up to it as a premier league manager. he even stooped as low as attempting to intimidate the wanderers fans last night. we were stood outside the hotel waiting for the players to come out, and when Cahill and Nolan announced they were not playing, with usbelieving they were doubts, not definatley out. I asked Davies was he playing, and when he shrugged his shoulders, we said, he cant be resting them all again after the rest in lisbon, megson came up into my face, and said, 'theres 5 of them hurt ok, off my back' and walked off. leaving the wanderers fans in disgust with his attitude.
Megson is clearly not up to it as a premier league manager. he even stooped as low as attempting to intimidate the wanderers fans last night. we were stood outside the hotel waiting for the players to come out, and when Cahill and Nolan announced they were not playing, with usbelieving they were doubts, not definatley out. I asked Davies was he playing, and when he shrugged his shoulders, we said, he cant be resting them all again after the rest in lisbon, megson came up into my face, and said, 'theres 5 of them hurt ok, off my back' and walked off. leaving the wanderers fans in disgust with his attitude.
Posted by: Themojorityspeaks, Real World on 8:59am Thu 20 Mar 08
Why will megson not take taylor off no matter how bad he's playing?
Why will megson not take taylor off no matter how bad he's playing?
Posted by: Aidan, sheffield on 9:01am Thu 20 Mar 08
At least there were positives last night.
Gavin Macann was his usual consistant solid self, should be in the side until the end of the season.
Joey oBrein doesnt give the ball away much, which was a pleasant relief after watching Campo not complete a pass all season. These two with Nolan as our midfield.
Guthrie, is still a decent player, but its his first full season and he has reached burn out (this could work in our favour, as Liverpool wont want him back and we could get him for cheap)
Miete, absolutely awful, undid any good work that the other players put in, a liabilty but now we know that Steinsson makes a good emergency centre half. For me i wouldnt have Meite in the side again and get rid in the summer.
Hunt has hit a brilliant patch of form, he looks threatening going forward and solid at the back, he is one of the best crossers of the ball we have and actually cares, he should be in the team until the end of the season.
Taylor, rubbish in open play but usful from free kicks and corners, i think the side can carry him until the end and just use him for our set plays.
Al Habsi: For me we should thank Jussi for his services, give him his testimonial and thank what ever scout it was who has found Al Habsi, he could play for us for the next 10 years, he looks brilliant and he is still learning. He is an excellent shot stopper, solid on crosses and a much better kicker than Jussi has ever been. Thanks Jussi but we have our new number 1 at just the right time.
At least there were positives last night.
Gavin Macann was his usual consistant solid self, should be in the side until the end of the season.
Joey oBrein doesnt give the ball away much, which was a pleasant relief after watching Campo not complete a pass all season. These two with Nolan as our midfield.
Guthrie, is still a decent player, but its his first full season and he has reached burn out (this could work in our favour, as Liverpool wont want him back and we could get him for cheap)
Miete, absolutely awful, undid any good work that the other players put in, a liabilty but now we know that Steinsson makes a good emergency centre half. For me i wouldnt have Meite in the side again and get rid in the summer.
Hunt has hit a brilliant patch of form, he looks threatening going forward and solid at the back, he is one of the best crossers of the ball we have and actually cares, he should be in the team until the end of the season.
Taylor, rubbish in open play but usful from free kicks and corners, i think the side can carry him until the end and just use him for our set plays.
Al Habsi: For me we should thank Jussi for his services, give him his testimonial and thank what ever scout it was who has found Al Habsi, he could play for us for the next 10 years, he looks brilliant and he is still learning. He is an excellent shot stopper, solid on crosses and a much better kicker than Jussi has ever been. Thanks Jussi but we have our new number 1 at just the right time.
Posted by: Themojorityspeaks, Real World on 9:03am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]wankywanderer[/bold] wrote:
Megson is clearly not up to it as a premier league manager. he even stooped as low as attempting to intimidate the wanderers fans last night. we were stood outside the hotel waiting for the players to come out, and when Cahill and Nolan announced they were not playing, with usbelieving they were doubts, not definatley out. I asked Davies was he playing, and when he shrugged his shoulders, we said, he cant be resting them all again after the rest in lisbon, megson came up into my face, and said, 'theres 5 of them hurt ok, off my back' and walked off. leaving the wanderers fans in disgust with his attitude. [/quote] i hope you said something back to him
a long the lines of when you leaving our club.
wankywanderer wrote:
Megson is clearly not up to it as a premier league manager. he even stooped as low as attempting to intimidate the wanderers fans last night. we were stood outside the hotel waiting for the players to come out, and when Cahill and Nolan announced they were not playing, with usbelieving they were doubts, not definatley out. I asked Davies was he playing, and when he shrugged his shoulders, we said, he cant be resting them all again after the rest in lisbon, megson came up into my face, and said, 'theres 5 of them hurt ok, off my back' and walked off. leaving the wanderers fans in disgust with his attitude.
i hope you said something back to him
a long the lines of when you leaving our club.
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 9:03am Thu 20 Mar 08
That moron Megson will see us not getting spanked ten nil as a sign of defensive strength, and that he is a top manager.
What an idiot. He MUST go.
That moron Megson will see us not getting spanked ten nil as a sign of defensive strength, and that he is a top manager.
What an idiot. He MUST go.
Posted by: davie, leigh on 9:04am Thu 20 Mar 08
I watched the game in the pub and there were 10 United (so called)fans to every 1 of us.
All wearing United tops.
It did my head in .
Half were playing on their mobiles ,4 were playing pool.
One bunch were on the Bandit.
All only pausing to watch a replay of the goals.
What a bunch of parasites.
What sad lives these people have.
All following like bloody sheep for a bit of success in their miserable lives
Thank god I am not one of them.
COME ON YOU WHITES!
I watched the game in the pub and there were 10 United (so called)fans to every 1 of us.
All wearing United tops.
It did my head in .
Half were playing on their mobiles ,4 were playing pool.
One bunch were on the Bandit.
All only pausing to watch a replay of the goals.
What a bunch of parasites.
What sad lives these people have.
All following like bloody sheep for a bit of success in their miserable lives
Thank god I am not one of them.
COME ON YOU WHITES!
Posted by: a.voiceofreason, Bolton on 9:04am Thu 20 Mar 08
I like the comment" Megson Rallies the troops" Megson could not Rally a push bike!!
I like the comment" Megson Rallies the troops" Megson could not Rally a push bike!!
Posted by: a.voiceofreason, Bolton on 9:09am Thu 20 Mar 08
Hi Dave from Leigh, you have got to be one of saddest B------- in the world! get a life! get a red shirt, you will feel better!
Hi Dave from Leigh, you have got to be one of saddest B------- in the world! get a life! get a red shirt, you will feel better!
Posted by: Julie Moores, Bolton on 9:09am Thu 20 Mar 08
The positive- Mr Blobby might be back for us on Saturday- Wow, he really has made such a difference when he plays.
His 70 yard dash at the ref was the quickest he's moved since the last delivery of Mars Easter eggs.
The positive- Mr Blobby might be back for us on Saturday- Wow, he really has made such a difference when he plays.
His 70 yard dash at the ref was the quickest he's moved since the last delivery of Mars Easter eggs.
Posted by: White58, Bolton on 9:11am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]pa dog 69[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gareth Jones[/bold] wrote:
Reading the above quotes from Gary Megson, it's not hard to get the impression that Bolton are already relegated. It's at times like this that a board should show it's teeth and act. Megson has done the best he can, but it's just not good enough and the club should move on and appoint a top caretaker manager. It really makes you wonder whether, once again, it's a question of money. [/quote] Good idea. Replace your manager every 15 games...[/quote] Don't appoint cr*p managers in the first place, then you won't need to get rid so often.
pa dog 69 wrote:
Gareth Jones wrote:
Reading the above quotes from Gary Megson, it's not hard to get the impression that Bolton are already relegated. It's at times like this that a board should show it's teeth and act. Megson has done the best he can, but it's just not good enough and the club should move on and appoint a top caretaker manager. It really makes you wonder whether, once again, it's a question of money.
Good idea. Replace your manager every 15 games...
Don't appoint cr*p managers in the first place, then you won't need to get rid so often.
Posted by: amosc99, Hoofdorp on 9:12am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Themojorityspeaks[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]wankywanderer[/bold] wrote: Megson is clearly not up to it as a premier league manager. he even stooped as low as attempting to intimidate the wanderers fans last night. we were stood outside the hotel waiting for the players to come out, and when Cahill and Nolan announced they were not playing, with usbelieving they were doubts, not definatley out. I asked Davies was he playing, and when he shrugged his shoulders, we said, he cant be resting them all again after the rest in lisbon, megson came up into my face, and said, 'theres 5 of them hurt ok, off my back' and walked off. leaving the wanderers fans in disgust with his attitude. [/quote] i hope you said something back to him a long the lines of when you leaving our club.[/quote] I know what I would have said back - along the lines of (putting it very politely here as so not to get banned).....
I say old minature bean, what is like to have such a graceful side that lets the opposing team walk all over us...
you klnow can't be bothered... I would have said....
Oi! you f'in little s**t, y don't ya do something decent and LEAVE, loser!!!
Themojorityspeaks wrote:
wankywanderer wrote: Megson is clearly not up to it as a premier league manager. he even stooped as low as attempting to intimidate the wanderers fans last night. we were stood outside the hotel waiting for the players to come out, and when Cahill and Nolan announced they were not playing, with usbelieving they were doubts, not definatley out. I asked Davies was he playing, and when he shrugged his shoulders, we said, he cant be resting them all again after the rest in lisbon, megson came up into my face, and said, 'theres 5 of them hurt ok, off my back' and walked off. leaving the wanderers fans in disgust with his attitude.
i hope you said something back to him a long the lines of when you leaving our club.
I know what I would have said back - along the lines of (putting it very politely here as so not to get banned).....
I say old minature bean, what is like to have such a graceful side that lets the opposing team walk all over us...
you klnow can't be bothered... I would have said....
Oi! you f'in little s**t, y don't ya do something decent and LEAVE, loser!!!
Posted by: Themojorityspeaks, Real World on 9:14am Thu 20 Mar 08
Aidan wrote-
[quote]Taylor, rubbish in open play but usful from free kicks and corners, i think the side can carry him until the end and just use him for our set plays[/quote]
i dont agree that we are good enough at the moment to carry taylor just for his free kicks and corners he shouldn't be in the team after his last two performances.
Aidan wrote-
Taylor, rubbish in open play but usful from free kicks and corners, i think the side can carry him until the end and just use him for our set plays
i dont agree that we are good enough at the moment to carry taylor just for his free kicks and corners he shouldn't be in the team after his last two performances.
Posted by: White58, Bolton on 9:17am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy[/bold] wrote:
One positive comment followed by 3 negative ones. The very sentiment that comes to the surface at the games,grumbling, refusing to clap, leaving early - absolutely pathetic.
In the second half, admittedly against a United team with their foot off the gas we did pretty well.We did not cave in like at Liverpool and Blackburn and Hunt and Steinsson had good second halves.
Starting Saturday the team needs getting behind from the off; they will be in good spirits after that showing.City, West Ham and Sunderland are beatable with the right attitude from the fans and players alike.With the clutch of end-of-season results that always happen we will pick up some points away.
Put up or shut up.[/quote] Those games are winnable with the right team/bench selection & the right tactics, as well as the right attitude & motivation from the players.
Tell Megson & the players to put up or shut up. That's where the answer lies - only marginally with the fans.
Andy wrote:
One positive comment followed by 3 negative ones. The very sentiment that comes to the surface at the games,grumbling, refusing to clap, leaving early - absolutely pathetic.
In the second half, admittedly against a United team with their foot off the gas we did pretty well.We did not cave in like at Liverpool and Blackburn and Hunt and Steinsson had good second halves.
Starting Saturday the team needs getting behind from the off; they will be in good spirits after that showing.City, West Ham and Sunderland are beatable with the right attitude from the fans and players alike.With the clutch of end-of-season results that always happen we will pick up some points away.
Put up or shut up.
Those games are winnable with the right team/bench selection & the right tactics, as well as the right attitude & motivation from the players.
Tell Megson & the players to put up or shut up. That's where the answer lies - only marginally with the fans.
Posted by: amosc99, Almere on 9:17am Thu 20 Mar 08
Aidan,
If you want successful set peices - then Big Sam SHOULD be brought back - we were the kings of them!
Aidan,
If you want successful set peices - then Big Sam SHOULD be brought back - we were the kings of them!
Posted by: Brak, Bolton on 9:25am Thu 20 Mar 08
Al Habsi played well.
What on earth was Guthrie and the occasional other doing just not controlling the ball properly and it going out for a throw in
.it was embarrassing and having to sit in with the home fans and listen to their southern musings I was getting more agitated as the game went on.
I was disgusted with their play acting too especially Ronaldo and Tevez.
We were AWFUL in the first half second half much better. Always a nice surprise when Hunt plays well and he had a decent shot on goal too.
Been getting plenty of stick from Utd fans but we never expected to win. If they are that happy about beating us then it shows what it meant to them.
Also shocked at how many of them leave early some were going with 15 mins left to go! Part timers!
Al Habsi played well.
What on earth was Guthrie and the occasional other doing just not controlling the ball properly and it going out for a throw in
.it was embarrassing and having to sit in with the home fans and listen to their southern musings I was getting more agitated as the game went on.
I was disgusted with their play acting too especially Ronaldo and Tevez.
We were AWFUL in the first half second half much better. Always a nice surprise when Hunt plays well and he had a decent shot on goal too.
Been getting plenty of stick from Utd fans but we never expected to win. If they are that happy about beating us then it shows what it meant to them.
Also shocked at how many of them leave early some were going with 15 mins left to go! Part timers!
Posted by: Brak, Bolton on 9:27am Thu 20 Mar 08
And another thing when I could hear their fans singing "AF's barmy army" or whatever, I was thinking what could we shout as we don't want to shout Megson, and the good old days came flooding back in my head "Big Sam's super white army!"
But we can't move backwards........can we??
And another thing when I could hear their fans singing "AF's barmy army" or whatever, I was thinking what could we shout as we don't want to shout Megson, and the good old days came flooding back in my head "Big Sam's super white army!"
But we can't move backwards........can we??
Posted by: a.voiceofreason, Bolton on 9:28am Thu 20 Mar 08
Let face it, Bolton are crap! Just like the comments posted,the lack of supporters last night at Old Trafford shows that to be a fact!
Let face it, Bolton are crap! Just like the comments posted,the lack of supporters last night at Old Trafford shows that to be a fact!
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 9:33am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]a.voiceofreason[/bold] wrote:
Let face it, Bolton are crap! Just like the comments posted,the lack of supporters last night at Old Trafford shows that to be a fact![/quote] I bet 800 of ours made more noise than 75,000 of yours.
Jog on!
a.voiceofreason wrote:
Let face it, Bolton are crap! Just like the comments posted,the lack of supporters last night at Old Trafford shows that to be a fact!
I bet 800 of ours made more noise than 75,000 of yours.
Jog on!
Posted by: Brak, Bolton on 9:35am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]a.voiceofreason[/bold] wrote: Let face it, Bolton are crap! Just like the comments posted,the lack of supporters last night at Old Trafford shows that to be a fact![/quote] I bet 800 of ours made more noise than 75,000 of yours. Jog on![/quote] Yeah Chris, we did.
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
a.voiceofreason wrote: Let face it, Bolton are crap! Just like the comments posted,the lack of supporters last night at Old Trafford shows that to be a fact!
I bet 800 of ours made more noise than 75,000 of yours. Jog on!
Yeah Chris, we did.
Posted by: yonmons, Portsmouth on 9:35am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]wankywanderer[/bold] wrote:
Megson is clearly not up to it as a premier league manager. he even stooped as low as attempting to intimidate the wanderers fans last night. we were stood outside the hotel waiting for the players to come out, and when Cahill and Nolan announced they were not playing, with usbelieving they were doubts, not definatley out. I asked Davies was he playing, and when he shrugged his shoulders, we said, he cant be resting them all again after the rest in lisbon, megson came up into my face, and said, 'theres 5 of them hurt ok, off my back' and walked off. leaving the wanderers fans in disgust with his attitude. [/quote] If that really occured, and I dont for one minute think it didn`t, then not only has Megson lost the plot, but it shows what type of guy he must be to work for, no wonder its all gone belly up. There is something fundementally wrong within this football club.
wankywanderer wrote:
Megson is clearly not up to it as a premier league manager. he even stooped as low as attempting to intimidate the wanderers fans last night. we were stood outside the hotel waiting for the players to come out, and when Cahill and Nolan announced they were not playing, with usbelieving they were doubts, not definatley out. I asked Davies was he playing, and when he shrugged his shoulders, we said, he cant be resting them all again after the rest in lisbon, megson came up into my face, and said, 'theres 5 of them hurt ok, off my back' and walked off. leaving the wanderers fans in disgust with his attitude.
If that really occured, and I dont for one minute think it didn`t, then not only has Megson lost the plot, but it shows what type of guy he must be to work for, no wonder its all gone belly up. There is something fundementally wrong within this football club.
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 9:38am Thu 20 Mar 08
They won't take Taylor off cos that'll be admitting that we wasted nigh on £5m on the useless lump.
They won't take Taylor off cos that'll be admitting that we wasted nigh on £5m on the useless lump.
Posted by: Joe Neill, Lagos on 9:39am Thu 20 Mar 08
Megson talks a good game but results speak different.The jury's back and the verdict is "fricking useless" I'll still support the club no matter
Megson talks a good game but results speak different.The jury's back and the verdict is "fricking useless" I'll still support the club no matter
Posted by: Themojorityspeaks, Real World on 9:42am Thu 20 Mar 08
last night showed that if megson plays it right we could pick up some points
first of all he's got to play 4-4-2 with diouf on the left and guthrie/stellios on the right taylor on the bench helguson and davies up front any defence without meite and samual and obrian/mcann and nolan centre mid.
just my opinion and i know people dont like teams posted but this is what i think will give us a chance of staying up.
last night showed that if megson plays it right we could pick up some points
first of all he's got to play 4-4-2 with diouf on the left and guthrie/stellios on the right taylor on the bench helguson and davies up front any defence without meite and samual and obrian/mcann and nolan centre mid.
just my opinion and i know people dont like teams posted but this is what i think will give us a chance of staying up.
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 9:47am Thu 20 Mar 08
No no no no no no.
Joey O'Brien is without doubt alongside Meite and McCann as the poorest players we've had in a looooooooooong time.
No no no no no no.
Joey O'Brien is without doubt alongside Meite and McCann as the poorest players we've had in a looooooooooong time.
Posted by: Andy L, rugby on 9:49am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote:
Well done Al Habsi, Guthrie and Hunt when he came on. Very poor- Meite, Joey and Taylor.
What gets me is how slowly we start, and only respond when a goal down eg Rovers, Wigan and last night. It was like waiting for the inevitable. Davo up front alone, wasted passes, everyone else sitting back. There is no way on earth we are good enough to keep clean sheets playing like that.
At 2-0 down, tactics and shape changed, we looked better. Yes, I was pleased with the effort after we changed things, but why always start with the 4-5-1 and play so poorly? Does he never learn? Someone on here posted last week that Megson knows more about football than any of us, because he is a Manager !!!! I would more trust the posters on here to pick a winning team than Megson.
Rasiak- Why on the bench? 2-0 down, the only so called striker doesnt come on, so what is he doing there? Did Negson mean to bring him on when we were 3-0 up?
Stelios- one of our best players in Lisbon. Has he played 10 minutes since then?
Megson and Gartside, you have taken the pride out of this club. There should be a minutes silence on the 13th March annually to remember the hopes and ambition you killed off.[/quote] I agree with this,but for wishing to add Ricky Gardner to the well dones- thought it was his best game for a while.Joey O'B did well in so far as he didn't give the ball away much and got in a lot of tackles and blocks but it was hard not to feel that playing both him and McCann was a barrier to rather than a support for attacking play.
Assuming he's fit, I want to see Davies paired with Helgusson in all our remaining games. On the evidence of the last month it's our only real chance of posing a threat and creating opportunities for others. Like you I want to see Stelios there most of the time as well and Guthrie. After that, for me on current form, he can perm, rotate and bench any two of Joey, McCann, Nolan,Diouf, Campo, Taylor. ( I'm sadly discounting Andranik,Vaz Te and Alonso as ruined beyond short-term resuscitation) Will Megson be brave enough to do this rather than 3-5-1?- a pointless(maybe literally?)rhetorica
l question.
Julie Moores wrote:
Well done Al Habsi, Guthrie and Hunt when he came on. Very poor- Meite, Joey and Taylor.
What gets me is how slowly we start, and only respond when a goal down eg Rovers, Wigan and last night. It was like waiting for the inevitable. Davo up front alone, wasted passes, everyone else sitting back. There is no way on earth we are good enough to keep clean sheets playing like that.
At 2-0 down, tactics and shape changed, we looked better. Yes, I was pleased with the effort after we changed things, but why always start with the 4-5-1 and play so poorly? Does he never learn? Someone on here posted last week that Megson knows more about football than any of us, because he is a Manager !!!! I would more trust the posters on here to pick a winning team than Megson.
Rasiak- Why on the bench? 2-0 down, the only so called striker doesnt come on, so what is he doing there? Did Negson mean to bring him on when we were 3-0 up?
Stelios- one of our best players in Lisbon. Has he played 10 minutes since then?
Megson and Gartside, you have taken the pride out of this club. There should be a minutes silence on the 13th March annually to remember the hopes and ambition you killed off.
I agree with this,but for wishing to add Ricky Gardner to the well dones- thought it was his best game for a while.Joey O'B did well in so far as he didn't give the ball away much and got in a lot of tackles and blocks but it was hard not to feel that playing both him and McCann was a barrier to rather than a support for attacking play.
Assuming he's fit, I want to see Davies paired with Helgusson in all our remaining games. On the evidence of the last month it's our only real chance of posing a threat and creating opportunities for others. Like you I want to see Stelios there most of the time as well and Guthrie. After that, for me on current form, he can perm, rotate and bench any two of Joey, McCann, Nolan,Diouf, Campo, Taylor. ( I'm sadly discounting Andranik,Vaz Te and Alonso as ruined beyond short-term resuscitation) Will Megson be brave enough to do this rather than 3-5-1?- a pointless(maybe literally?)rhetorica
l question.
Posted by: joannebk, bolton on 9:50am Thu 20 Mar 08
We've lost that winning feeing, oooohhh
that winning feeling,
We've lost that winning feeling,
and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh
I've got that sinking feeling, ooohh,
that sinking feeling,
I've got that sinking feeling,
and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh
We've lost that winning feeing, oooohhh
that winning feeling,
We've lost that winning feeling,
and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh
I've got that sinking feeling, ooohh,
that sinking feeling,
I've got that sinking feeling,
and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh
Posted by: Themojorityspeaks, Real World on 9:50am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote:
No no no no no no. Joey O'Brien is without doubt alongside Meite and McCann as the poorest players we've had in a looooooooooong time.[/quote] thats got to be taylor
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
No no no no no no. Joey O'Brien is without doubt alongside Meite and McCann as the poorest players we've had in a looooooooooong time.
thats got to be taylor
Posted by: Trotter, Bolton on 9:52am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote:
The positive- Mr Blobby might be back for us on Saturday- Wow, he really has made such a difference when he plays. His 70 yard dash at the ref was the quickest he's moved since the last delivery of Mars Easter eggs.[/quote] [bold]Julie[/bold] - I did not go but did watch the match on my computer, agree with your assesment and now it is on to Saturday against City, the games are running out fast now and I wonder if we can muster up half a dozen goals not mentioning how we keep a clean sheet, for me Gartside is the only one to blame in all this fiasco, alright Megson changes the formations and picks the team but when Gartside sold Anelka then for me he sold our Premiership status.
P.S: Charlotte was asking about you last night.
[bold]Keep the Faith[/bold]
Julie Moores wrote:
The positive- Mr Blobby might be back for us on Saturday- Wow, he really has made such a difference when he plays. His 70 yard dash at the ref was the quickest he's moved since the last delivery of Mars Easter eggs.
Julie - I did not go but did watch the match on my computer, agree with your assesment and now it is on to Saturday against City, the games are running out fast now and I wonder if we can muster up half a dozen goals not mentioning how we keep a clean sheet, for me Gartside is the only one to blame in all this fiasco, alright Megson changes the formations and picks the team but when Gartside sold Anelka then for me he sold our Premiership status.
P.S: Charlotte was asking about you last night.
Keep the Faith Posted by: a.voiceofreason, Bolton on 9:52am Thu 20 Mar 08
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
Chris wrot:
I bet 800 of ours made more noise than 75,000 of yours. Jog on!
I was amongst the 800 or less and all I could hear was the bleeting!
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
Chris wrot:
I bet 800 of ours made more noise than 75,000 of yours. Jog on!
I was amongst the 800 or less and all I could hear was the bleeting!
Posted by: joannebk, bolton on 9:52am Thu 20 Mar 08
We've lost that winning feeling, oooohhh
that winning feeling,
We've lost that winning feeling,
and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh
I've got that sinking feeling, ooohh,
that sinking feeling,
I've got that sinking feeling,
and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh
My typing is as accurate as Taylor's shots on goal, but not as bad as Vaz
We've lost that winning feeling, oooohhh
that winning feeling,
We've lost that winning feeling,
and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh
I've got that sinking feeling, ooohh,
that sinking feeling,
I've got that sinking feeling,
and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh
My typing is as accurate as Taylor's shots on goal, but not as bad as Vaz
Posted by: apple on 9:52am Thu 20 Mar 08
Last night Man U put out a weakend team with one or two exeptions and they gave up when the game was won at 2 0 which was good for our goal difference. Yet the Ginger Winger feels we should rejoice for drawing the second half 0 0, well said that man, does he not step on the cracks of the pavement too as he is a complete muppet and does not have a clue when it comes down to motivation and tactics. Someone said why change a manger at this stage of the season well its last chance saloon and this man will take us down so what have we got to lose. He never was the right man for the job and Gartside has put us in peril not once but twice this season in the managerial front not to mention the sale of Anelka and the lack of replacement. However, he may still belive that it was good business tell us that in May. Come on for once Gartside admit you were wrong and sack the clown.
Last night Man U put out a weakend team with one or two exeptions and they gave up when the game was won at 2 0 which was good for our goal difference. Yet the Ginger Winger feels we should rejoice for drawing the second half 0 0, well said that man, does he not step on the cracks of the pavement too as he is a complete muppet and does not have a clue when it comes down to motivation and tactics. Someone said why change a manger at this stage of the season well its last chance saloon and this man will take us down so what have we got to lose. He never was the right man for the job and Gartside has put us in peril not once but twice this season in the managerial front not to mention the sale of Anelka and the lack of replacement. However, he may still belive that it was good business tell us that in May. Come on for once Gartside admit you were wrong and sack the clown.
Posted by: Trotter, Bolton on 10:06am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]joannebk[/bold] wrote:
We've lost that winning feeling, oooohhh that winning feeling, We've lost that winning feeling, and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh I've got that sinking feeling, ooohh, that sinking feeling, I've got that sinking feeling, and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh My typing is as accurate as Taylor's shots on goal, but not as bad as Vaz [/quote] Good to see that your sense of humour in our demise is still good, we could all do with you at the Reebok singing to the team to cheer them all up, either that or give them earache ........ lol
[bold]Keep the Faith[/bold]
joannebk wrote:
We've lost that winning feeling, oooohhh that winning feeling, We've lost that winning feeling, and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh I've got that sinking feeling, ooohh, that sinking feeling, I've got that sinking feeling, and we'll be gone, gone, gone, oh oh oh oh ooooh My typing is as accurate as Taylor's shots on goal, but not as bad as Vaz
Good to see that your sense of humour in our demise is still good, we could all do with you at the Reebok singing to the team to cheer them all up, either that or give them earache ........ lol
Keep the Faith Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 10:14am Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]a.voiceofreason[/bold] wrote:
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote: Chris wrot: I bet 800 of ours made more noise than 75,000 of yours. Jog on! I was amongst the 800 or less and all I could hear was the bleeting![/quote] If you want any help finding the 'Quote' button, just ask your carer.
a.voiceofreason wrote:
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote: Chris wrot: I bet 800 of ours made more noise than 75,000 of yours. Jog on! I was amongst the 800 or less and all I could hear was the bleeting!
If you want any help finding the 'Quote' button, just ask your carer.
Posted by: davie, leigh on 10:20am Thu 20 Mar 08
Why do all the pond life fans like voiceofnonsense insist on coming on our forum talking absolute trash.
Its pathetic.
Sad beyond belief ,the lot of you.
Why do all the pond life fans like voiceofnonsense insist on coming on our forum talking absolute trash.
Its pathetic.
Sad beyond belief ,the lot of you.
Posted by: Julie Moores, Bolton on 10:22am Thu 20 Mar 08
Hi Trotter
Very remiss of me not to reply to you and Charlotte. I had intended to go last night, but after Lisbon we decided to save the £78 cost for 2 tickets, which only lines the Glazers pockets anyway. Watched the match in a Manchester bar- oh yes, that was really great !!!
I cant believe Megson still here. Any person of self respect would have gone after the Wigan farce. What if we win against City? Are we supposed to cheer for the moron?
Hi Trotter
Very remiss of me not to reply to you and Charlotte. I had intended to go last night, but after Lisbon we decided to save the £78 cost for 2 tickets, which only lines the Glazers pockets anyway. Watched the match in a Manchester bar- oh yes, that was really great !!!
I cant believe Megson still here. Any person of self respect would have gone after the Wi
