Campo makes peace
PEACE has broken out at the Reebok, but there appears to be no way back for Abdoulaye Meite.
Ivan Campo has apologised to Gary Megson for throwing a strop when he was substituted during Wanderers' scoreless draw with Manchester City, and he will play against Arsenal on Saturday.
So too will El-Hadji Diouf, who is back on side with his team-mates after concerns over his commitment to the cause. Senior players held a meeting with the Senegal international following his withdrawal after an ineffective first half in the defeat at Wigan.
See the full story in Thursday's The Bolton News
7:39am Thursday 27th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: yonmons, Portsmouth on 8:19am Thu 27 Mar 08
Aw, thats nice everyone is kissing and making up. Cracking bit of in depth reporting by the BEN.
Aw, thats nice everyone is kissing and making up. Cracking bit of in depth reporting by the BEN.
Posted by: Den, Leigh on 8:28am Thu 27 Mar 08
Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...
Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...
Posted by: Staffs White, Staffs on 8:57am Thu 27 Mar 08
Papering over the cracks methinks.
Our time is up, we have had a great 8 years and better supported teams than us would give their right arms for the prem ride we have had, half the championship get better gates than us.
Think it through if we stay up we wont be able to sack Megson and will will def go down the season after with him in charge. Lets get the pain over with now.
Campo off to his restaruant in Mallorca, Diouf off to a bigger team (try Wigan) Davies has always wanted to play for Sheffield United, Nolan off to a big Merseyside club (Tranmere). Jussi off to Man City.
I'll still be there though.
Rebuild around Guthrie, Cahill and Al Habsi with Phil Brown if he fails to take Hull up.
We may well turn Arsenal over on Saturday though!
I can cope with the despair its the hope I cant stand
Anyway see you on Saturday and keep smiling whatever!
Papering over the cracks methinks.
Our time is up, we have had a great 8 years and better supported teams than us would give their right arms for the prem ride we have had, half the championship get better gates than us.
Think it through if we stay up we wont be able to sack Megson and will will def go down the season after with him in charge. Lets get the pain over with now.
Campo off to his restaruant in Mallorca, Diouf off to a bigger team (try Wigan) Davies has always wanted to play for Sheffield United, Nolan off to a big Merseyside club (Tranmere). Jussi off to Man City.
I'll still be there though.
Rebuild around Guthrie, Cahill and Al Habsi with Phil Brown if he fails to take Hull up.
We may well turn Arsenal over on Saturday though!
I can cope with the despair its the hope I cant stand
Anyway see you on Saturday and keep smiling whatever!
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 8:59am Thu 27 Mar 08
Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor?
Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits.
Mugson OUT!
Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor?
Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits.
Mugson OUT!
Posted by: donmarg, devon on 9:03am Thu 27 Mar 08
Nothing to do with this thread,
But welcome to the real world cappelo,
Over priced
Over paid
Over rated
Self centered big headed wasters cappelo will go the way of all England managers you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear as the saying goe,s
As for meite let him go why pay his wages he is cra- anyway along with a few more at this club,
More so manager and management
Nothing to do with this thread,
But welcome to the real world cappelo,
Over priced
Over paid
Over rated
Self centered big headed wasters cappelo will go the way of all England managers you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear as the saying goe,s
As for meite let him go why pay his wages he is cra- anyway along with a few more at this club,
More so manager and management
Posted by: eenie, Derby on 9:29am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote:
Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor?
Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits.
Mugson OUT![/quote] taylor is being used wrong. he's on the front 3 for us, but he's not a winger, he lacks the pace to get there. he's best on the left side of a 4-4-2 midfield where he scores the occasional great goal but gives 110% Right now he's trying hard but it's obvious he's out of place, just too far forward. Megson seems to have seen his good goals and thought he could play in a front 3 but I don't think he can. If we switched to 4-4-2 properly I think he'd settle better.
As for Meite, suspend him without pay, make him train on his own and sell him in the summer. I don't care how much we lose on him financially, nobody is in a position to do that to any club, and not ours. Campo you can understand his frustration, he's always given us 110%, Meite has rarely given us 70%
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor?
Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits.
Mugson OUT!
taylor is being used wrong. he's on the front 3 for us, but he's not a winger, he lacks the pace to get there. he's best on the left side of a 4-4-2 midfield where he scores the occasional great goal but gives 110% Right now he's trying hard but it's obvious he's out of place, just too far forward. Megson seems to have seen his good goals and thought he could play in a front 3 but I don't think he can. If we switched to 4-4-2 properly I think he'd settle better.
As for Meite, suspend him without pay, make him train on his own and sell him in the summer. I don't care how much we lose on him financially, nobody is in a position to do that to any club, and not ours. Campo you can understand his frustration, he's always given us 110%, Meite has rarely given us 70%
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 9:32am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]eenie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote: Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT![/quote] taylor is being used wrong. he's on the front 3 for us, but he's not a winger, he lacks the pace to get there. he's best on the left side of a 4-4-2 midfield where he scores the occasional great goal but gives 110% Right now he's trying hard but it's obvious he's out of place, just too far forward. Megson seems to have seen his good goals and thought he could play in a front 3 but I don't think he can. If we switched to 4-4-2 properly I think he'd settle better. As for Meite, suspend him without pay, make him train on his own and sell him in the summer. I don't care how much we lose on him financially, nobody is in a position to do that to any club, and not ours. Campo you can understand his frustration, he's always given us 110%, Meite has rarely given us 70%[/quote] Right or wrong position, he's been dump.
I agree totally about Meite, he was crap last year, and worse this. Get rid.
eenie wrote:
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote: Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT!
taylor is being used wrong. he's on the front 3 for us, but he's not a winger, he lacks the pace to get there. he's best on the left side of a 4-4-2 midfield where he scores the occasional great goal but gives 110% Right now he's trying hard but it's obvious he's out of place, just too far forward. Megson seems to have seen his good goals and thought he could play in a front 3 but I don't think he can. If we switched to 4-4-2 properly I think he'd settle better. As for Meite, suspend him without pay, make him train on his own and sell him in the summer. I don't care how much we lose on him financially, nobody is in a position to do that to any club, and not ours. Campo you can understand his frustration, he's always given us 110%, Meite has rarely given us 70%
Right or wrong position, he's been dump.
I agree totally about Meite, he was crap last year, and worse this. Get rid.
Posted by: AlanHandsome, Garstang on 9:42am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote:
Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT![/quote] I can see now why everyone on The-Wanderer thinks your a moron now, you really do talk rubbish.
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT!
I can see now why everyone on The-Wanderer thinks your a moron now, you really do talk rubbish.
Posted by: birch, chorley on 9:44am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Den[/bold] wrote:
Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...[/quote] disagree with you, he is a good player! I was told Megson came in the dressing room at half time and basically singled meitie out for the 2 goals!
Now weather at fault or not i think a decent man manager like big sam wouldnt have done that in the way that megson did it.
we have a manager who should be managing at non league level with semi pros, not the premiere league.
Den wrote:
Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...
disagree with you, he is a good player! I was told Megson came in the dressing room at half time and basically singled meitie out for the 2 goals!
Now weather at fault or not i think a decent man manager like big sam wouldnt have done that in the way that megson did it.
we have a manager who should be managing at non league level with semi pros, not the premiere league.
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 9:46am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]AlanHandsome[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote: Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT![/quote] I can see now why everyone on The-Wanderer thinks your a moron now, you really do talk rubbish.[/quote] They love me really.
Maybe.
AlanHandsome wrote:
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote: Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT!
I can see now why everyone on The-Wanderer thinks your a moron now, you really do talk rubbish.
They love me really.
Maybe.
Posted by: AlanHandsome, Garstang on 9:47am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]AlanHandsome[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote: Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT![/quote] I can see now why everyone on The-Wanderer thinks your a moron now, you really do talk rubbish.[/quote] They love me really. Maybe.[/quote] Well maybe :)
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
AlanHandsome wrote: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote: Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT!
I can see now why everyone on The-Wanderer thinks your a moron now, you really do talk rubbish.
They love me really. Maybe.
Well maybe :)
Posted by: GC, Turton on 9:52am Thu 27 Mar 08
Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.
Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.
Posted by: Praiadareebok, Bolton/Praia Da Luz on 10:03am Thu 27 Mar 08
On the England theme, I'm glad to see that Fabio has recognised what a great forward thinker our Gary is and introduced the same playing system at national level - the Lone Ranger up front supported by a clueless and unco-ordinated midfield including an over the hill right sided mid-fielder for old times sake and a captain who has no motivational qualities whatsoever.
Trouble is Gary might think it gives him some credibility!
On the England theme, I'm glad to see that Fabio has recognised what a great forward thinker our Gary is and introduced the same playing system at national level - the Lone Ranger up front supported by a clueless and unco-ordinated midfield including an over the hill right sided mid-fielder for old times sake and a captain who has no motivational qualities whatsoever.
Trouble is Gary might think it gives him some credibility!
Posted by: Franksy senior, Blackpool on 10:05am Thu 27 Mar 08
Glad to see Campo is over his 'strop.' I've no time for pedantic players but this was frustration at being substituted and it shows Campo's real commitment to the cause - good! He may have slowed a bit now but he is still a superb player. As regards Meite, whoever chose him in the first place?(Big Sam).We should have dumped him and kept Faye. The big problem with Wanderers is clear: we can't score goals. (get teaching 'em Nat!) Although we can't do without the work and skills of Davies and Diouf, they are paid to strike and are not doing so. At the risk of sounding like Arthur Scargill, (remember him?) for goodness sake, strikers - S-T-R-I-K-E!!!!!
Glad to see Campo is over his 'strop.' I've no time for pedantic players but this was frustration at being substituted and it shows Campo's real commitment to the cause - good! He may have slowed a bit now but he is still a superb player. As regards Meite, whoever chose him in the first place?(Big Sam).We should have dumped him and kept Faye. The big problem with Wanderers is clear: we can't score goals. (get teaching 'em Nat!) Although we can't do without the work and skills of Davies and Diouf, they are paid to strike and are not doing so. At the risk of sounding like Arthur Scargill, (remember him?) for goodness sake, strikers - S-T-R-I-K-E!!!!!
Posted by: Franksy senior, Blackpool on 10:12am Thu 27 Mar 08
Glad to see Campo is over his 'strop.' I've no time for pedantic players but this was frustration at being substituted and it shows Campo's real commitment to the cause - good! He may have slowed a bit now but he is still a superb player. As regards Meite, whoever chose him in the first place?(Big Sam).We should have dumped him and kept Faye. The big problem with Wanderers is clear: we can't score goals. (get teaching 'em Nat!) Although we can't do without the work and skills of Davies and Diouf, they are paid to strike and are not doing so. At the risk of sounding like Arthur Scargill, (remember him?) for goodness sake, strikers - S-T-R-I-K-E!!!!!
Glad to see Campo is over his 'strop.' I've no time for pedantic players but this was frustration at being substituted and it shows Campo's real commitment to the cause - good! He may have slowed a bit now but he is still a superb player. As regards Meite, whoever chose him in the first place?(Big Sam).We should have dumped him and kept Faye. The big problem with Wanderers is clear: we can't score goals. (get teaching 'em Nat!) Although we can't do without the work and skills of Davies and Diouf, they are paid to strike and are not doing so. At the risk of sounding like Arthur Scargill, (remember him?) for goodness sake, strikers - S-T-R-I-K-E!!!!!
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 10:42am Thu 27 Mar 08
Anyone who suggests we build a team around Guthrie is clearly quite severely mentally ill.
Oh, and blind.
Anyone who suggests we build a team around Guthrie is clearly quite severely mentally ill.
Oh, and blind.
Posted by: apple on 10:48am Thu 27 Mar 08
Come on Ivan next time you are substituted for McCann do us all a favour and chin Megson at least we will get some entertainment at the reebok.
Come on Ivan next time you are substituted for McCann do us all a favour and chin Megson at least we will get some entertainment at the reebok.
Posted by: amosc99, Hoofdorp on 11:27am Thu 27 Mar 08
So let me get this right- the senior players held a talk with no management involved?
So Megson does NOTHING - as proved on the pitch!!!! This is very seriously sounding like the last few days of LSL reign all over again - only this time its SMEGHEAD who should know better.
Smeghead should be completely embarrased about himself - how many Premiership teams has he taken down?
How many teams, full stop, has he got relegated?
How many teams fans has he put noses out of place with his torrid managerial experience and absolute disregard for the fans?
MEGSON JUST DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND LEAVE (AND NEVER ENTER THE FORAY OF FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN - YOU ARE USELESS!!!) - AND AT THE SAME TIME TAKE GARTSIDE WITH YOU!
So let me get this right- the senior players held a talk with no management involved?
So Megson does NOTHING - as proved on the pitch!!!! This is very seriously sounding like the last few days of LSL reign all over again - only this time its SMEGHEAD who should know better.
Smeghead should be completely embarrased about himself - how many Premiership teams has he taken down?
How many teams, full stop, has he got relegated?
How many teams fans has he put noses out of place with his torrid managerial experience and absolute disregard for the fans?
MEGSON JUST DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND LEAVE (AND NEVER ENTER THE FORAY OF FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN - YOU ARE USELESS!!!) - AND AT THE SAME TIME TAKE GARTSIDE WITH YOU!
Posted by: amosc99, Hoofdorp on 11:28am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]apple[/bold] wrote:
Come on Ivan next time you are substituted for McCann do us all a favour and chin Megson at least we will get some entertainment at the reebok.[/quote] I would gladly see Campo or any other PASSIONATE player give Megson one - he deserves it!
apple wrote:
Come on Ivan next time you are substituted for McCann do us all a favour and chin Megson at least we will get some entertainment at the reebok.
I would gladly see Campo or any other PASSIONATE player give Megson one - he deserves it!
Posted by: il duce, bolton on 11:34am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]donmarg[/bold] wrote:
Nothing to do with this thread, But welcome to the real world cappelo, Over priced Over paid Over rated Self centered big headed wasters cappelo will go the way of all England managers you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear as the saying goe,s As for meite let him go why pay his wages he is cra- anyway along with a few more at this club, More so manager and management[/quote] yeah on the england set up, capello needs to grow some balls and drop players like Brown, Joe Cole, Gerrard, Lampard who have never done it for england
megson also needs to grow some balls and drop the non performers from our team (cohen, rasiak, taylor, nolan) and play a slightly attacking team from time to time
his swings and roundabouts analogy is the most stupid thing ive ever heard. admittedly if we went all out attack wed have a weaker defense, but when all the fans are talking about is 2 up front at home....
relegation is the best thing that can happen this season. if we stay up megson will take all the plaudits and well just get relegated next season. also i really dont want another season where a goal only happens once avery other game
donmarg wrote:
Nothing to do with this thread, But welcome to the real world cappelo, Over priced Over paid Over rated Self centered big headed wasters cappelo will go the way of all England managers you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear as the saying goe,s As for meite let him go why pay his wages he is cra- anyway along with a few more at this club, More so manager and management
yeah on the england set up, capello needs to grow some balls and drop players like Brown, Joe Cole, Gerrard, Lampard who have never done it for england
megson also needs to grow some balls and drop the non performers from our team (cohen, rasiak, taylor, nolan) and play a slightly attacking team from time to time
his swings and roundabouts analogy is the most stupid thing ive ever heard. admittedly if we went all out attack wed have a weaker defense, but when all the fans are talking about is 2 up front at home....
relegation is the best thing that can happen this season. if we stay up megson will take all the plaudits and well just get relegated next season. also i really dont want another season where a goal only happens once avery other game
Posted by: kenglowhite, Bolton on 11:40am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]donmarg[/bold] wrote:
Nothing to do with this thread, But welcome to the real world cappelo, Over priced Over paid Over rated Self centered big headed wasters cappelo will go the way of all England managers you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear as the saying goe,s As for meite let him go why pay his wages he is cra- anyway along with a few more at this club, More so manager and management[/quote] It was just like watching............
..wait for it!!!...............
...................B
BBB
..............Bolton Wanderers!!!!
donmarg wrote:
Nothing to do with this thread, But welcome to the real world cappelo, Over priced Over paid Over rated Self centered big headed wasters cappelo will go the way of all England managers you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear as the saying goe,s As for meite let him go why pay his wages he is cra- anyway along with a few more at this club, More so manager and management
It was just like watching............
..wait for it!!!...............
...................B
BBB
..............Bolton Wanderers!!!!
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 11:54am Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]amosc99[/bold] wrote:
So let me get this right- the senior players held a talk with no management involved? So Megson does NOTHING - as proved on the pitch!!!! This is very seriously sounding like the last few days of LSL reign all over again - only this time its SMEGHEAD who should know better. Smeghead should be completely embarrased about himself - how many Premiership teams has he taken down? How many teams, full stop, has he got relegated? How many teams fans has he put noses out of place with his torrid managerial experience and absolute disregard for the fans? MEGSON JUST DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND LEAVE (AND NEVER ENTER THE FORAY OF FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN - YOU ARE USELESS!!!) - AND AT THE SAME TIME TAKE GARTSIDE WITH YOU![/quote] Brilliant. I've not been on here for a couple of weeks and when I do nice to see the usual people still enjoying life. What a joyful existence - you wanna get some vitamin c inside you, do some sit-up or something, anything to raise your mood. We might get relegated, we might not...it's happened before and it'll happen again. Together now...deep breaths.
amosc99 wrote:
So let me get this right- the senior players held a talk with no management involved? So Megson does NOTHING - as proved on the pitch!!!! This is very seriously sounding like the last few days of LSL reign all over again - only this time its SMEGHEAD who should know better. Smeghead should be completely embarrased about himself - how many Premiership teams has he taken down? How many teams, full stop, has he got relegated? How many teams fans has he put noses out of place with his torrid managerial experience and absolute disregard for the fans? MEGSON JUST DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND LEAVE (AND NEVER ENTER THE FORAY OF FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN - YOU ARE USELESS!!!) - AND AT THE SAME TIME TAKE GARTSIDE WITH YOU!
Brilliant. I've not been on here for a couple of weeks and when I do nice to see the usual people still enjoying life. What a joyful existence - you wanna get some vitamin c inside you, do some sit-up or something, anything to raise your mood. We might get relegated, we might not...it's happened before and it'll happen again. Together now...deep breaths.
Posted by: gazraw, rainford on 12:13pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]GC[/bold] wrote:
Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.[/quote] LOL I never thought I would see Campo's name and pace linked together (except for lack of). We dont want finesse we want hunger and a dogs of war attitude. 11 rotweillers who will scrap and show passion.
GC wrote:
Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.
LOL I never thought I would see Campo's name and pace linked together (except for lack of). We dont want finesse we want hunger and a dogs of war attitude. 11 rotweillers who will scrap and show passion.
Posted by: Le Roi on 12:18pm Thu 27 Mar 08
A sick dog is usually put down not made to suffer for a few more weeks.
A sick dog is usually put down not made to suffer for a few more weeks.
Posted by: apple on 12:20pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Here is a great interview by the bolton news mr G Sharrock:
If your highly-regarded manager leaves in the summer and your most prized striker leaves in the transfer window, it's probably worth bracing yourself for a less-than-vintage season. Bolton know that better than most.
The departure of Sam Allardyce prompted a drop to the bottom of the Premier League table under Sammy Lee and, although Gary Megson has given them a fighting chance of survival, Bolton are still mired in the relegation zone. The loss of Nicolas Anelka to Chelsea has hurt just as much - Bolton have scored just seven goals in 14 games since the Frenchman left.
Everyone knows that Arsenal need to win at the Reebok to reignite their fading title challenge but Bolton are perhaps even more desperate for points to climb out of the bottom three. At least the omens are good for the Trotters - they have won their last three home League games against Arsene Wenger's side.
We asked Gordon Sharrock of the Bolton Evening News for a Bolton perspective ahead of Saturday's game. Read on for his views on those high-profile departures, the progress made by Megson, Bolton's bad luck and why Arsenal should expect another physical challenge this weekend.
THE STORY SO FAR
"It is no surprise at all that Bolton have done poorly considering Sam Allardyce left last summer. He was always going to be a big act to follow in more ways than one. He left a big footprint on the club and on the town and it was always going to be difficult for anyone replacing him. Sammy Lee came in and there was a six-month period where Bolton were looking for stability but they didn't actually get it. It was a difficult time for Sammy with changes on and off the field. He went after just nine games into the season when Bolton were bottom with five points.
"Gary Megson won't argue that he wasn't the most popular choice but he had a lot to do, he had a lot to sort out when he arrived in October. Bolton were bottom and they were fighting an uphill battle even then. Gary got things well-organised and mounted a revival which took Bolton out of the bottom three."
SADLY MISSED?
"Any team in the country would have missed Nicolas Anelka, that goes without saying. Bolton felt they couldn't keep him beyond January, it was big money from Chelsea. The biggest gripe among Bolton fans is that they didn't get someone else in to replace him. Some fans were angry to see him sold but some fans understood it was impossible to keep Nicolas against his will. Those who accepted that Nicolas wanted to move to a Champions League club really wanted to see the money re-invested in the team because Nicolas was the one scoring all the goals. But Bolton didn't do that and of course the goals have dried up since."
CAUSE FOR OPTIMISM
"They can stay up. What I will say is that if Gary Megson and this team had been together from day one, Bolton would not be in the bottom three. I reckon they would be mid-table. That obviously isn't the case but Megson has brought in Gary Cahill - a very good signing - and the organisation which has been brought back to the side has made Bolton hard to beat. They had a good run when Megson came in which took them towards mid-table but they could never quite get there and leave the rest behind! Now they are in a dreadful run which has dragged them back into it. But I think it's a dreadful run of results rather than a dreadful run of performances."
CAUSE FOR CONCERN
"When you are in this situation things tend to conspire against you and Bolton have just lost Jussi Jaaskelainen for the rest of the season with a back injury although Ali Al-Habsi is a competent keeper. They've lost Ricardo Gardner at left-back, he busted a rib in the Manchester City game last weekend. And Kevin Nolan is suspended for two games. They are Bolton's three longest serving players and would have almost certainly have played. Arsenal might be encouraged by that."
TALKING TACTICS
"I don't think Arsenal can expect anything different from Bolton. This team plays similar to the way Bolton have always played with the same formation. There will still be the threat of Kevin Davies and he has upset Arsenal defences in the past. It's a style which has upset Arsene in the past and I don't think it will be any different on Saturday. Whether it is as effective this time remains to be seen, much depends on whether Arsenal are fired up to get their title challenge back on track."
Well Gordon if megson was in charge from the begging we would be mid table can i have a pint of what you have been drinking or was it a loving cup you share with gartside.
Here is a great interview by the bolton news mr G Sharrock:
If your highly-regarded manager leaves in the summer and your most prized striker leaves in the transfer window, it's probably worth bracing yourself for a less-than-vintage season. Bolton know that better than most.
The departure of Sam Allardyce prompted a drop to the bottom of the Premier League table under Sammy Lee and, although Gary Megson has given them a fighting chance of survival, Bolton are still mired in the relegation zone. The loss of Nicolas Anelka to Chelsea has hurt just as much - Bolton have scored just seven goals in 14 games since the Frenchman left.
Everyone knows that Arsenal need to win at the Reebok to reignite their fading title challenge but Bolton are perhaps even more desperate for points to climb out of the bottom three. At least the omens are good for the Trotters - they have won their last three home League games against Arsene Wenger's side.
We asked Gordon Sharrock of the Bolton Evening News for a Bolton perspective ahead of Saturday's game. Read on for his views on those high-profile departures, the progress made by Megson, Bolton's bad luck and why Arsenal should expect another physical challenge this weekend.
THE STORY SO FAR
"It is no surprise at all that Bolton have done poorly considering Sam Allardyce left last summer. He was always going to be a big act to follow in more ways than one. He left a big footprint on the club and on the town and it was always going to be difficult for anyone replacing him. Sammy Lee came in and there was a six-month period where Bolton were looking for stability but they didn't actually get it. It was a difficult time for Sammy with changes on and off the field. He went after just nine games into the season when Bolton were bottom with five points.
"Gary Megson won't argue that he wasn't the most popular choice but he had a lot to do, he had a lot to sort out when he arrived in October. Bolton were bottom and they were fighting an uphill battle even then. Gary got things well-organised and mounted a revival which took Bolton out of the bottom three."
SADLY MISSED?
"Any team in the country would have missed Nicolas Anelka, that goes without saying. Bolton felt they couldn't keep him beyond January, it was big money from Chelsea. The biggest gripe among Bolton fans is that they didn't get someone else in to replace him. Some fans were angry to see him sold but some fans understood it was impossible to keep Nicolas against his will. Those who accepted that Nicolas wanted to move to a Champions League club really wanted to see the money re-invested in the team because Nicolas was the one scoring all the goals. But Bolton didn't do that and of course the goals have dried up since."
CAUSE FOR OPTIMISM
"They can stay up. What I will say is that if Gary Megson and this team had been together from day one, Bolton would not be in the bottom three. I reckon they would be mid-table. That obviously isn't the case but Megson has brought in Gary Cahill - a very good signing - and the organisation which has been brought back to the side has made Bolton hard to beat. They had a good run when Megson came in which took them towards mid-table but they could never quite get there and leave the rest behind! Now they are in a dreadful run which has dragged them back into it. But I think it's a dreadful run of results rather than a dreadful run of performances."
CAUSE FOR CONCERN
"When you are in this situation things tend to conspire against you and Bolton have just lost Jussi Jaaskelainen for the rest of the season with a back injury although Ali Al-Habsi is a competent keeper. They've lost Ricardo Gardner at left-back, he busted a rib in the Manchester City game last weekend. And Kevin Nolan is suspended for two games. They are Bolton's three longest serving players and would have almost certainly have played. Arsenal might be encouraged by that."
TALKING TACTICS
"I don't think Arsenal can expect anything different from Bolton. This team plays similar to the way Bolton have always played with the same formation. There will still be the threat of Kevin Davies and he has upset Arsenal defences in the past. It's a style which has upset Arsene in the past and I don't think it will be any different on Saturday. Whether it is as effective this time remains to be seen, much depends on whether Arsenal are fired up to get their title challenge back on track."
Well Gordon if megson was in charge from the begging we would be mid table can i have a pint of what you have been drinking or was it a loving cup you share with gartside.
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 12:29pm Thu 27 Mar 08
we're doomed
Posted by: Nobby, not too far away... on 12:38pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote:
we're doomed[/quote] I agree with you...I went on the BBC premiership predictor and fed in the results for the remaining games for all teams this season. I tried to be dispassionate and realistic about the whole thing, but here's what came out:
13 Newcastle 39
14 Wigan 38
15 Sunderland 38
16 Reading 36
17 Birmingham 35
18 Bolton 32
19 Fulham 26
20 Derby 12
And on top of this, did you see just how quick Anelka was last night...we've nobody who can move at that pace and strike fear into the opposition's defence.
Still, I'll be there next season just hoping we aren't on our way down another division.
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote:
we're doomed
I agree with you...I went on the BBC premiership predictor and fed in the results for the remaining games for all teams this season. I tried to be dispassionate and realistic about the whole thing, but here's what came out:
13 Newcastle 39
14 Wigan 38
15 Sunderland 38
16 Reading 36
17 Birmingham 35
18 Bolton 32
19 Fulham 26
20 Derby 12
And on top of this, did you see just how quick Anelka was last night...we've nobody who can move at that pace and strike fear into the opposition's defence.
Still, I'll be there next season just hoping we aren't on our way down another division.
Posted by: Pedro, Bolton on 12:45pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Gordon has been moonlighting on Arsenal.com!!!
We asked Gordon Sharrock of the Bolton Evening News for a Bolton perspective ahead of Saturday's game. Read on for his views on those high-profile departures, the progress made by Megson, Bolton's bad luck and why Arsenal should expect another physical challenge this weekend.
THE STORY SO FAR
"It is no surprise at all that Bolton have done poorly considering Sam Allardyce left last summer. He was always going to be a big act to follow in more ways than one. He left a big footprint on the club and on the town and it was always going to be difficult for anyone replacing him. Sammy Lee came in and there was a six-month period where Bolton were looking for stability but they didn't actually get it. It was a difficult time for Sammy with changes on and off the field. He went after just nine games into the season when Bolton were bottom with five points.
"Gary Megson won't argue that he wasn't the most popular choice but he had a lot to do, he had a lot to sort out when he arrived in October. Bolton were bottom and they were fighting an uphill battle even then. Gary got things well-organised and mounted a revival which took Bolton out of the bottom three."
SADLY MISSED?
"Any team in the country would have missed Nicolas Anelka, that goes without saying. Bolton felt they couldn't keep him beyond January, it was big money from Chelsea. The biggest gripe among Bolton fans is that they didn't get someone else in to replace him. Some fans were angry to see him sold but some fans understood it was impossible to keep Nicolas against his will. Those who accepted that Nicolas wanted to move to a Champions League club really wanted to see the money re-invested in the team because Nicolas was the one scoring all the goals. But Bolton didn't do that and of course the goals have dried up since."
CAUSE FOR OPTIMISM
"They can stay up. What I will say is that if Gary Megson and this team had been together from day one, Bolton would not be in the bottom three. I reckon they would be mid-table. That obviously isn't the case but Megson has brought in Gary Cahill - a very good signing - and the organisation which has been brought back to the side has made Bolton hard to beat. They had a good run when Megson came in which took them towards mid-table but they could never quite get there and leave the rest behind! Now they are in a dreadful run which has dragged them back into it. But I think it's a dreadful run of results rather than a dreadful run of performances."
CAUSE FOR CONCERN
"When you are in this situation things tend to conspire against you and Bolton have just lost Jussi Jaaskelainen for the rest of the season with a back injury although Ali Al-Habsi is a competent keeper. They've lost Ricardo Gardner at left-back, he busted a rib in the Manchester City game last weekend. And Kevin Nolan is suspended for two games. They are Bolton's three longest serving players and would have almost certainly have played. Arsenal might be encouraged by that."
TALKING TACTICS
"I don't think Arsenal can expect anything different from Bolton. This team plays similar to the way Bolton have always played with the same formation. There will still be the threat of Kevin Davies and he has upset Arsenal defences in the past. It's a style which has upset Arsene in the past and I don't think it will be any different on Saturday. Whether it is as effective this time remains to be seen, much depends on whether Arsenal are fired up to get their title challenge back on track."
[ Thursday, March 27, 2008]
Gordon has been moonlighting on Arsenal.com!!!
We asked Gordon Sharrock of the Bolton Evening News for a Bolton perspective ahead of Saturday's game. Read on for his views on those high-profile departures, the progress made by Megson, Bolton's bad luck and why Arsenal should expect another physical challenge this weekend.
THE STORY SO FAR
"It is no surprise at all that Bolton have done poorly considering Sam Allardyce left last summer. He was always going to be a big act to follow in more ways than one. He left a big footprint on the club and on the town and it was always going to be difficult for anyone replacing him. Sammy Lee came in and there was a six-month period where Bolton were looking for stability but they didn't actually get it. It was a difficult time for Sammy with changes on and off the field. He went after just nine games into the season when Bolton were bottom with five points.
"Gary Megson won't argue that he wasn't the most popular choice but he had a lot to do, he had a lot to sort out when he arrived in October. Bolton were bottom and they were fighting an uphill battle even then. Gary got things well-organised and mounted a revival which took Bolton out of the bottom three."
SADLY MISSED?
"Any team in the country would have missed Nicolas Anelka, that goes without saying. Bolton felt they couldn't keep him beyond January, it was big money from Chelsea. The biggest gripe among Bolton fans is that they didn't get someone else in to replace him. Some fans were angry to see him sold but some fans understood it was impossible to keep Nicolas against his will. Those who accepted that Nicolas wanted to move to a Champions League club really wanted to see the money re-invested in the team because Nicolas was the one scoring all the goals. But Bolton didn't do that and of course the goals have dried up since."
CAUSE FOR OPTIMISM
"They can stay up. What I will say is that if Gary Megson and this team had been together from day one, Bolton would not be in the bottom three. I reckon they would be mid-table. That obviously isn't the case but Megson has brought in Gary Cahill - a very good signing - and the organisation which has been brought back to the side has made Bolton hard to beat. They had a good run when Megson came in which took them towards mid-table but they could never quite get there and leave the rest behind! Now they are in a dreadful run which has dragged them back into it. But I think it's a dreadful run of results rather than a dreadful run of performances."
CAUSE FOR CONCERN
"When you are in this situation things tend to conspire against you and Bolton have just lost Jussi Jaaskelainen for the rest of the season with a back injury although Ali Al-Habsi is a competent keeper. They've lost Ricardo Gardner at left-back, he busted a rib in the Manchester City game last weekend. And Kevin Nolan is suspended for two games. They are Bolton's three longest serving players and would have almost certainly have played. Arsenal might be encouraged by that."
TALKING TACTICS
"I don't think Arsenal can expect anything different from Bolton. This team plays similar to the way Bolton have always played with the same formation. There will still be the threat of Kevin Davies and he has upset Arsenal defences in the past. It's a style which has upset Arsene in the past and I don't think it will be any different on Saturday. Whether it is as effective this time remains to be seen, much depends on whether Arsenal are fired up to get their title challenge back on track."
Posted by: brian, bolton on 12:48pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]apple[/bold] wrote:
Come on Ivan next time you are substituted for McCann do us all a favour and chin Megson at least we will get some entertainment at the reebok.[/quote] Nice post apple
apple wrote:
Come on Ivan next time you are substituted for McCann do us all a favour and chin Megson at least we will get some entertainment at the reebok.
Nice post apple
Posted by: tommy d, Tyldesley on 1:45pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]GC[/bold] wrote:
Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.[/quote] Are you for real man...I'd be happy if he never played again. More pace than Joey..what!!
He has cost us time and time again with his "hollywood ball" that always fails. Hes on his arse more than hes up and always tuirns the wrong way into trouble normally right uin front of goal. The only thing LSL goT right was trying to get rid of the overaged carthorse.
GC wrote:
Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.
Are you for real man...I'd be happy if he never played again. More pace than Joey..what!!
He has cost us time and time again with his "hollywood ball" that always fails. Hes on his arse more than hes up and always tuirns the wrong way into trouble normally right uin front of goal. The only thing LSL goT right was trying to get rid of the overaged carthorse.
Posted by: run rabbit run, Fantasy island on 1:48pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Le Roi[/bold] wrote:
A sick dog is usually put down not made to suffer for a few more weeks.[/quote] No problems, let me know where you are and we'll take care of the rest
Le Roi wrote:
A sick dog is usually put down not made to suffer for a few more weeks.
No problems, let me know where you are and we'll take care of the rest
Posted by: Pedro, Bolton on 1:52pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Five live sports news just reported that Negson has just denied that there is unrest in the dressing room
Five live sports news just reported that Negson has just denied that there is unrest in the dressing room
Posted by: Den, Leigh on 2:43pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]run rabbit run[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Le Roi[/bold] wrote: A sick dog is usually put down not made to suffer for a few more weeks.[/quote] No problems, let me know where you are and we'll take care of the rest[/quote] North London?
run rabbit run wrote:
Le Roi wrote: A sick dog is usually put down not made to suffer for a few more weeks.
No problems, let me know where you are and we'll take care of the rest
North London?
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 2:44pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]eenie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote: Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT![/quote] taylor is being used wrong. he's on the front 3 for us, but he's not a winger, he lacks the pace to get there. he's best on the left side of a 4-4-2 midfield where he scores the occasional great goal but gives 110% Right now he's trying hard but it's obvious he's out of place, just too far forward. Megson seems to have seen his good goals and thought he could play in a front 3 but I don't think he can. If we switched to 4-4-2 properly I think he'd settle better. As for Meite, suspend him without pay, make him train on his own and sell him in the summer. I don't care how much we lose on him financially, nobody is in a position to do that to any club, and not ours. Campo you can understand his frustration, he's always given us 110%, Meite has rarely given us 70%[/quote] I think part of Campo's problem is he just doesnt like, or rate, Nolan. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I get. When Nolan scores, Campo is always the 1 walking slowly back to the centre spot while most of his teammates celebrate. When Nolan's having yet another poor game, I can feel Campo's frustration at normally being the 1 to make way for the sub, its never Nolan and I have some sympathy for his reaction while not condoning it. One thing you can be sure of with Nolan is that he wants the team to win whether or not he's in the team, it always comes across to me that Campo wants the team to fail if he isnt picked, I dont honestly think he is a 100% club man like a Davies, Speed, Nolan or Gardner.
eenie wrote:
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote: Erm what about the crap 'efforts' of our illustrious fat captain Nolan? What about the shameful performances of that waste of space Taylor? Nowt wrong with clearing the air, but I think Campo and Diouf are not the worst culprits. Mugson OUT!
taylor is being used wrong. he's on the front 3 for us, but he's not a winger, he lacks the pace to get there. he's best on the left side of a 4-4-2 midfield where he scores the occasional great goal but gives 110% Right now he's trying hard but it's obvious he's out of place, just too far forward. Megson seems to have seen his good goals and thought he could play in a front 3 but I don't think he can. If we switched to 4-4-2 properly I think he'd settle better. As for Meite, suspend him without pay, make him train on his own and sell him in the summer. I don't care how much we lose on him financially, nobody is in a position to do that to any club, and not ours. Campo you can understand his frustration, he's always given us 110%, Meite has rarely given us 70%
I think part of Campo's problem is he just doesnt like, or rate, Nolan. I may be wrong, but that's the impression I get. When Nolan scores, Campo is always the 1 walking slowly back to the centre spot while most of his teammates celebrate. When Nolan's having yet another poor game, I can feel Campo's frustration at normally being the 1 to make way for the sub, its never Nolan and I have some sympathy for his reaction while not condoning it. One thing you can be sure of with Nolan is that he wants the team to win whether or not he's in the team, it always comes across to me that Campo wants the team to fail if he isnt picked, I dont honestly think he is a 100% club man like a Davies, Speed, Nolan or Gardner.
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 2:47pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]GC[/bold] wrote:
Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.[/quote] He was replaced by McCann, who can occasionally be good and is better at tackling and shooting than Campo. But on the day he was poor v City so the substitution clearly didnt work. We all know Gardner should have been replaced by Stelios not J O'B at h-t, but that would have been far too attacking for our defensive manager.
GC wrote:
Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.
He was replaced by McCann, who can occasionally be good and is better at tackling and shooting than Campo. But on the day he was poor v City so the substitution clearly didnt work. We all know Gardner should have been replaced by Stelios not J O'B at h-t, but that would have been far too attacking for our defensive manager.
Posted by: birch, chorley on 2:59pm Thu 27 Mar 08
ivan campo is a legend! he has been fantastic for us during his time at our club and when he leaves it will be the last of the european class to leave bolton!
i am gutted to see the likes of him go and also to see the stick he is getting from some on this site, he is the best footballer left at the club, noboddy else has tries to keep it on the deckand split a defence with a pass. OK he hasnt been up to scratch recently but WHO HAS????????? NOLAN, DIOUF, JUSSI????
ivan campo is a legend! he has been fantastic for us during his time at our club and when he leaves it will be the last of the european class to leave bolton!
i am gutted to see the likes of him go and also to see the stick he is getting from some on this site, he is the best footballer left at the club, noboddy else has tries to keep it on the deckand split a defence with a pass. OK he hasnt been up to scratch recently but WHO HAS????????? NOLAN, DIOUF, JUSSI????
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 3:10pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Nobby[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Chris Manning, Gotham City PD[/bold] wrote: we're doomed[/quote] I agree with you...I went on the BBC premiership predictor and fed in the results for the remaining games for all teams this season. I tried to be dispassionate and realistic about the whole thing, but here's what came out: 13 Newcastle 39 14 Wigan 38 15 Sunderland 38 16 Reading 36 17 Birmingham 35 18 Bolton 32 19 Fulham 26 20 Derby 12 And on top of this, did you see just how quick Anelka was last night...we've nobody who can move at that pace and strike fear into the opposition's defence. Still, I'll be there next season just hoping we aren't on our way down another division. [/quote] Nobby, its only a bit of fun but I dont know how you get Fulham to finish 6 points worse off than us! Realistically they will pick up a minimum 3 wins v Derby, Sunderland and Brum, but I have them to finish on 36 points with us and go down on goal difference! I have Brum to finish on 35 even after beating City on Saturday. I admit our total of 36 may be a touch optimistic but we do need to over-achieve by getting 3 points out of Arsenal, Spurs, Villa and Boro and 2 wins v WHU and Sunderland. Not impossible surely? (I'm allowing myself to forget for 1 minute that Megson is our manager).
Nobby wrote:
Chris Manning, Gotham City PD wrote: we're doomed
I agree with you...I went on the BBC premiership predictor and fed in the results for the remaining games for all teams this season. I tried to be dispassionate and realistic about the whole thing, but here's what came out: 13 Newcastle 39 14 Wigan 38 15 Sunderland 38 16 Reading 36 17 Birmingham 35 18 Bolton 32 19 Fulham 26 20 Derby 12 And on top of this, did you see just how quick Anelka was last night...we've nobody who can move at that pace and strike fear into the opposition's defence. Still, I'll be there next season just hoping we aren't on our way down another division.
Nobby, its only a bit of fun but I dont know how you get Fulham to finish 6 points worse off than us! Realistically they will pick up a minimum 3 wins v Derby, Sunderland and Brum, but I have them to finish on 36 points with us and go down on goal difference! I have Brum to finish on 35 even after beating City on Saturday. I admit our total of 36 may be a touch optimistic but we do need to over-achieve by getting 3 points out of Arsenal, Spurs, Villa and Boro and 2 wins v WHU and Sunderland. Not impossible surely? (I'm allowing myself to forget for 1 minute that Megson is our manager).
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 3:15pm Thu 27 Mar 08
For what its worth, here's my final places:
13 Newcastle 41
14 Wigan 40
15 Sunderland 40
16 Reading 39
17 Bolton 35
18 Fulham 35
19 Brum 34
20 Derby 10
For what its worth, here's my final places:
13 Newcastle 41
14 Wigan 40
15 Sunderland 40
16 Reading 39
17 Bolton 35
18 Fulham 35
19 Brum 34
20 Derby 10
Posted by: Trotter, Bolton on 3:16pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]amosc99[/bold] wrote:
So let me get this right- the senior players held a talk with no management involved? So Megson does NOTHING - as proved on the pitch!!!! This is very seriously sounding like the last few days of LSL reign all over again - only this time its SMEGHEAD who should know better. Smeghead should be completely embarrased about himself - how many Premiership teams has he taken down? How many teams, full stop, has he got relegated? How many teams fans has he put noses out of place with his torrid managerial experience and absolute disregard for the fans? MEGSON JUST DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND LEAVE (AND NEVER ENTER THE FORAY OF FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN - YOU ARE USELESS!!!) - AND AT THE SAME TIME TAKE GARTSIDE WITH YOU![/quote] I get the feeling that you cannot "see the wood for the trees" here, Megson is just doing what he knows best, the person who employed him is the person who you and everyone else should be giving abuse to ............. by the way, the person in question is of course Mr Phil Gartside, you know the chap, he was televised secretly trying to sell Jay Jay our captain and also recently sold the striker who scored 80% of our goals this season before opening the door for him to jet off to warm the Chelsea bench.
Keep the Faith
amosc99 wrote:
So let me get this right- the senior players held a talk with no management involved? So Megson does NOTHING - as proved on the pitch!!!! This is very seriously sounding like the last few days of LSL reign all over again - only this time its SMEGHEAD who should know better. Smeghead should be completely embarrased about himself - how many Premiership teams has he taken down? How many teams, full stop, has he got relegated? How many teams fans has he put noses out of place with his torrid managerial experience and absolute disregard for the fans? MEGSON JUST DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND LEAVE (AND NEVER ENTER THE FORAY OF FOOTBALL EVER AGAIN - YOU ARE USELESS!!!) - AND AT THE SAME TIME TAKE GARTSIDE WITH YOU!
I get the feeling that you cannot "see the wood for the trees" here, Megson is just doing what he knows best, the person who employed him is the person who you and everyone else should be giving abuse to ............. by the way, the person in question is of course Mr Phil Gartside, you know the chap, he was televised secretly trying to sell Jay Jay our captain and also recently sold the striker who scored 80% of our goals this season before opening the door for him to jet off to warm the Chelsea bench.
Keep the Faith
Posted by: Trotter, Bolton on 3:19pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Jon W[/bold] wrote:
For what its worth, here's my final places: 13 Newcastle 41 14 Wigan 40 15 Sunderland 40 16 Reading 39 17 Bolton 35 18 Fulham 35 19 Brum 34 20 Derby 10 [/quote] I hope you are right there Jon.
Personally I feel we were relegated when we did not sign a striker after Anelka was given away by our Chairman or come to think of it, we were relegated when Anelka signed for Chelsea .... [bold]last November[/bold] !!
[bold]Keep the Faith[/bold]
Jon W wrote:
For what its worth, here's my final places: 13 Newcastle 41 14 Wigan 40 15 Sunderland 40 16 Reading 39 17 Bolton 35 18 Fulham 35 19 Brum 34 20 Derby 10
I hope you are right there Jon.
Personally I feel we were relegated when we did not sign a striker after Anelka was given away by our Chairman or come to think of it, we were relegated when Anelka signed for Chelsea ....
last November !!
Keep the Faith Posted by: MICK, BOLTON on 3:20pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Jon W-wrote
[quote]it always comes across to me that Campo wants the team to fail if he isnt picked, I dont honestly think he is a 100% club man like a Davies, Speed, Nolan or Gardner.[/quote]
I do agree with you upto a point on this but i can remember seeing campo stood in front of the dugout pre lsl after being taken off and shouting his team mates on.
on many occasions when not picked or injured i have seen him stood near the tunnel suited up watching the match.
now not many players do that these days.
This season though i have noticed a change and personally i think its his fitness,i think campo is more like nolan in terms of when his body cant do what his head wants he gets frustrated and his game goes out the window.
And i do think after all that went on with him and lsl he part blamed some of the players as well.
But for me even though past his best there is still mutual respect between campo and the fans.
Jon W-wrote
it always comes across to me that Campo wants the team to fail if he isnt picked, I dont honestly think he is a 100% club man like a Davies, Speed, Nolan or Gardner.
I do agree with you upto a point on this but i can remember seeing campo stood in front of the dugout pre lsl after being taken off and shouting his team mates on.
on many occasions when not picked or injured i have seen him stood near the tunnel suited up watching the match.
now not many players do that these days.
This season though i have noticed a change and personally i think its his fitness,i think campo is more like nolan in terms of when his body cant do what his head wants he gets frustrated and his game goes out the window.
And i do think after all that went on with him and lsl he part blamed some of the players as well.
But for me even though past his best there is still mutual respect between campo and the fans.
Posted by: joannebk, bolton on 3:21pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Bolton do stay up (and, for the record, I believe that we can - we have the potential, certainly) what will change?
Many have said it, we've been punching above our weight for a long time. We've been struggling for 18 months - with and without Lardydunce.
What changes are likely?
There's rumours that a consortium headed by Lardydunce are coming to buy the club. Will Megson be sacked then? To be replaced by... Lardydunce.
Alternatively, no buy out, we're stuck with Megson, Gartside and Davies (not super Kev...I'd like to be stuck with him anyday!). Megson won't be sacked if we are relegated.
No change there then.
BWFC need to focus on the short term - c'mon the Whites! - with their eyes on the long term.
Big changes are required.
It's like giving an old banger a spray paint.
Don't pimp my ride, give us a new engine!!!!
Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Bolton do stay up (and, for the record, I believe that we can - we have the potential, certainly) what will change?
Many have said it, we've been punching above our weight for a long time. We've been struggling for 18 months - with and without Lardydunce.
What changes are likely?
There's rumours that a consortium headed by Lardydunce are coming to buy the club. Will Megson be sacked then? To be replaced by... Lardydunce.
Alternatively, no buy out, we're stuck with Megson, Gartside and Davies (not super Kev...I'd like to be stuck with him anyday!). Megson won't be sacked if we are relegated.
No change there then.
BWFC need to focus on the short term - c'mon the Whites! - with their eyes on the long term.
Big changes are required.
It's like giving an old banger a spray paint.
Don't pimp my ride, give us a new engine!!!!
Posted by: Embankment Bob, Bolton on 3:31pm Thu 27 Mar 08
joanne
You have used the same insult to describe Big Sam on at least 10 occassions lately, and I dont think anyone responded in a positive way, or thought it at all amusing. Sam would always be welcomed back at the Reebok in whatever capacity, preferrably Manager. If you arent naturally witty, dont try is the answer.
joanne
You have used the same insult to describe Big Sam on at least 10 occassions lately, and I dont think anyone responded in a positive way, or thought it at all amusing. Sam would always be welcomed back at the Reebok in whatever capacity, preferrably Manager. If you arent naturally witty, dont try is the answer.
Posted by: tommy d, Tyldesley on 3:59pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]birch[/bold] wrote:
ivan campo is a legend! he has been fantastic for us during his time at our club and when he leaves it will be the last of the european class to leave bolton! i am gutted to see the likes of him go and also to see the stick he is getting from some on this site, he is the best footballer left at the club, noboddy else has tries to keep it on the deckand split a defence with a pass. OK he hasnt been up to scratch recently but WHO HAS????????? NOLAN, DIOUF, JUSSI????[/quote] Totally disagree mate..hes a liability, and an expensive luxury. When was the last time he spilt a defence and those passes he used to try and hit Anelka with... he could still be trying now and wouldnt have got near..great player loads of talent, wrong league tho he needs to be playing beach soccer with fat Eric.
birch wrote:
ivan campo is a legend! he has been fantastic for us during his time at our club and when he leaves it will be the last of the european class to leave bolton! i am gutted to see the likes of him go and also to see the stick he is getting from some on this site, he is the best footballer left at the club, noboddy else has tries to keep it on the deckand split a defence with a pass. OK he hasnt been up to scratch recently but WHO HAS????????? NOLAN, DIOUF, JUSSI????
Totally disagree mate..hes a liability, and an expensive luxury. When was the last time he spilt a defence and those passes he used to try and hit Anelka with... he could still be trying now and wouldnt have got near..great player loads of talent, wrong league tho he needs to be playing beach soccer with fat Eric.
Posted by: smithy, st helens on 4:05pm Thu 27 Mar 08
From Sky Sports
Gary Megson has admitted that Abdoulaye Meite could be allowed to leave Bolton on loan after refusing to come out for the second half against Manchester United.
The Ivory Coast international was replaced at half-time in the 2-0 defeat to Old Trafford but Megson has revealed that it was not because he was injured or because he had opted to make a tactical change.
Megson claims Meite just decided he did not want to continue, and the Bolton boss admits the behaviour was not well received by his team-mates.
Megson has other options in defence and had been prepared to loan Meite out to Ipswich, but he insists the player himself rejected the move.
There are a number of other Championship clubs, including Hull, interested in Meite and Megson is still ready to let him go out for the rest of the season.
Not happy
"He just decided he didn't want to play on against Manchester United in the second half," Megson told Sky Sports News.
"The players weren't happy with it, the squad wasn't happy with it.
"We've had the opportunity, Abdoulaye turned it down, to go to Ipswich on loan. I would have let him go.
"There's another couple of championship clubs he can go on to until the end of the season.
"It's not a case that we won't pick Abdoulaye Meite, it's a case of we've got people playing in that position and playing very well."
From Sky Sports
Gary Megson has admitted that Abdoulaye Meite could be allowed to leave Bolton on loan after refusing to come out for the second half against Manchester United.
The Ivory Coast international was replaced at half-time in the 2-0 defeat to Old Trafford but Megson has revealed that it was not because he was injured or because he had opted to make a tactical change.
Megson claims Meite just decided he did not want to continue, and the Bolton boss admits the behaviour was not well received by his team-mates.
Megson has other options in defence and had been prepared to loan Meite out to Ipswich, but he insists the player himself rejected the move.
There are a number of other Championship clubs, including Hull, interested in Meite and Megson is still ready to let him go out for the rest of the season.
Not happy
"He just decided he didn't want to play on against Manchester United in the second half," Megson told Sky Sports News.
"The players weren't happy with it, the squad wasn't happy with it.
"We've had the opportunity, Abdoulaye turned it down, to go to Ipswich on loan. I would have let him go.
"There's another couple of championship clubs he can go on to until the end of the season.
"It's not a case that we won't pick Abdoulaye Meite, it's a case of we've got people playing in that position and playing very well."
Posted by: Chris Manning, Gotham City PD on 4:14pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Get rid of Megson on loan at the same time.
Get rid of Megson on loan at the same time.
Posted by: joannebk, bolton on 4:18pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Embankment Bob[/bold] wrote:
joanne You have used the same insult to describe Big Sam on at least 10 occassions lately, and I dont think anyone responded in a positive way, or thought it at all amusing. Sam would always be welcomed back at the Reebok in whatever capacity, preferrably Manager. If you arent naturally witty, dont try is the answer.[/quote] I bow to your superior intellect and superiority...!
Embankment Bob wrote:
joanne You have used the same insult to describe Big Sam on at least 10 occassions lately, and I dont think anyone responded in a positive way, or thought it at all amusing. Sam would always be welcomed back at the Reebok in whatever capacity, preferrably Manager. If you arent naturally witty, dont try is the answer.
I bow to your superior intellect and superiority...!
Posted by: Pedro, Bolton on 4:19pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Looking forward to Ivan Campo's autobiography!!! Hope he pulls no punches!
Come on you Whites!!
Looking forward to Ivan Campo's autobiography!!! Hope he pulls no punches!
Come on you Whites!!
Posted by: Gatecrasher, Canada on 4:22pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]birch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Den[/bold] wrote: Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...[/quote] disagree with you, he is a good player! I was told Megson came in the dressing room at half time and basically singled meitie out for the 2 goals! Now weather at fault or not i think a decent man manager like big sam wouldnt have done that in the way that megson did it. we have a manager who should be managing at non league level with semi pros, not the premiere league.[/quote] I agree with Den.
As i have said before these players who refuse to play should be sent bags packing! Crap attitude . They get paid to do the job so do it!.
Not saying who is right or wrong . But Meite has not shown his worth of late and is more a liability.
good on Campo , for taking the initiative to patch things up. Maybe this will be a rallying point for the team.
birch wrote:
Den wrote: Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...
disagree with you, he is a good player! I was told Megson came in the dressing room at half time and basically singled meitie out for the 2 goals! Now weather at fault or not i think a decent man manager like big sam wouldnt have done that in the way that megson did it. we have a manager who should be managing at non league level with semi pros, not the premiere league.
I agree with Den.
As i have said before these players who refuse to play should be sent bags packing! Crap attitude . They get paid to do the job so do it!.
Not saying who is right or wrong . But Meite has not shown his worth of late and is more a liability.
good on Campo , for taking the initiative to patch things up. Maybe this will be a rallying point for the team.
Posted by: joannebk, bolton on 4:26pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Our problems stem from roots much deeper than Meite's and Campo's tantrums.
They stem from a lack of foresight from Gartside and Davies and short term planning from the managers.
Oh Bob, I'm not trying to be witty...
but you do patronising and condescending very well.
Shame about the spelling.Bob.
Our problems stem from roots much deeper than Meite's and Campo's tantrums.
They stem from a lack of foresight from Gartside and Davies and short term planning from the managers.
Oh Bob, I'm not trying to be witty...
but you do patronising and condescending very well.
Shame about the spelling.Bob.
Posted by: dazthegolfer, Devon on 4:34pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]run rabbit run[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Le Roi[/bold] wrote: A sick dog is usually put down not made to suffer for a few more weeks.[/quote] No problems, let me know where you are and we'll take care of the rest[/quote] Dont all shinited fans come from essex????
Thats why old trafford is quite most of the time as they are all napping following the long journey
run rabbit run wrote:
Le Roi wrote: A sick dog is usually put down not made to suffer for a few more weeks.
No problems, let me know where you are and we'll take care of the rest
Dont all shinited fans come from essex????
Thats why old trafford is quite most of the time as they are all napping following the long journey
Posted by: birch, chorley on 4:53pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Gatecrasher[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]birch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Den[/bold] wrote: Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...[/quote] disagree with you, he is a good player! I was told Megson came in the dressing room at half time and basically singled meitie out for the 2 goals! Now weather at fault or not i think a decent man manager like big sam wouldnt have done that in the way that megson did it. we have a manager who should be managing at non league level with semi pros, not the premiere league.[/quote] I agree with Den. As i have said before these players who refuse to play should be sent bags packing! Crap attitude . They get paid to do the job so do it!. Not saying who is right or wrong . But Meite has not shown his worth of late and is more a liability. good on Campo , for taking the initiative to patch things up. Maybe this will be a rallying point for the team. [/quote] i get paid to do a job but if i found that the organisation i was working for drafted in a cluless manager who is truely incompetant then i can sympathise with the unwillingness to work for such a person.
this blagger has been in charge for far too long now and the players just dont want to be associated with him. i think its fair enough because i dont want to be associated with him either.
have a look at how many players have had a stab at the current regime- speed, campo, meite, cid, wilhelmson and their will be many more once we have gone down.
you start to think have all these players lost the plot or is their something in what they are saying! they where all excellent players last term, its a big part of a managers job to man manage!
Gatecrasher wrote:
birch wrote: Den wrote: Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...
disagree with you, he is a good player! I was told Megson came in the dressing room at half time and basically singled meitie out for the 2 goals! Now weather at fault or not i think a decent man manager like big sam wouldnt have done that in the way that megson did it. we have a manager who should be managing at non league level with semi pros, not the premiere league.
I agree with Den. As i have said before these players who refuse to play should be sent bags packing! Crap attitude . They get paid to do the job so do it!. Not saying who is right or wrong . But Meite has not shown his worth of late and is more a liability. good on Campo , for taking the initiative to patch things up. Maybe this will be a rallying point for the team.
i get paid to do a job but if i found that the organisation i was working for drafted in a cluless manager who is truely incompetant then i can sympathise with the unwillingness to work for such a person.
this blagger has been in charge for far too long now and the players just dont want to be associated with him. i think its fair enough because i dont want to be associated with him either.
have a look at how many players have had a stab at the current regime- speed, campo, meite, cid, wilhelmson and their will be many more once we have gone down.
you start to think have all these players lost the plot or is their something in what they are saying! they where all excellent players last term, its a big part of a managers job to man manage!
Posted by: Embankment Bob, Bolton on 5:04pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Excellent comments, birch. Too much of a pattern here with Megson and player fall outs. This is a pal of a pal story, so may be no truth in it. Reckons one of the players told him that Megson was screaming so loudly at Meite that Meite said " Why dont you sub me then " Apparently it wasnt a refusal to play, just a player who didnt really respond to that type of man management.
I dont really rate Meite, thought he was the weak link many times, not clearing the ball properly, but this is just a sympom as you say, of a dressing room which has had its spirit crushed.
My worst fear on Saturday is Wenger playing his youth squad, and them running rings round us. Havent we had enough humiliations for one season?
Excellent comments, birch. Too much of a pattern here with Megson and player fall outs. This is a pal of a pal story, so may be no truth in it. Reckons one of the players told him that Megson was screaming so loudly at Meite that Meite said " Why dont you sub me then " Apparently it wasnt a refusal to play, just a player who didnt really respond to that type of man management.
I dont really rate Meite, thought he was the weak link many times, not clearing the ball properly, but this is just a sympom as you say, of a dressing room which has had its spirit crushed.
My worst fear on Saturday is Wenger playing his youth squad, and them running rings round us. Havent we had enough humiliations for one season?
Posted by: GC, Turton on 5:05pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]tommy d[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]GC[/bold] wrote: Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.[/quote] Are you for real man...I'd be happy if he never played again. More pace than Joey..what!! He has cost us time and time again with his "hollywood ball" that always fails. Hes on his arse more than hes up and always tuirns the wrong way into trouble normally right uin front of goal. The only thing LSL goT right was trying to get rid of the overaged carthorse.[/quote] Yes, he is slow, but still quicker than O'Brien. In fact, so am I.
tommy d wrote:
GC wrote: Glad the hairy one is back on board. Can't blame him for feeling peeved that he was replaced by O'Brien. Even at his age , he has got more pace than Joey and more football in his big toe than most of them . Meite however can disappear rapid. He is completely useless. Oh, and the manager can go with him.
Are you for real man...I'd be happy if he never played again. More pace than Joey..what!! He has cost us time and time again with his "hollywood ball" that always fails. Hes on his arse more than hes up and always tuirns the wrong way into trouble normally right uin front of goal. The only thing LSL goT right was trying to get rid of the overaged carthorse.
Yes, he is slow, but still quicker than O'Brien. In fact, so am I.
Posted by: Gatecrasher, Canada on 6:33pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]birch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Gatecrasher[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]birch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Den[/bold] wrote: Get rid of Meite, dont want any of my Season Ticket(s) money etc going to anyone who doesnt want to wear our beloved White Shirt and put 110% in...[/quote] disagree wi
